It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

  OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

    Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant 
quantities of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and 
that only works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop 
ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I 
offer to virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to 
use that option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the 
common parts.  


    Sent from my iPhone


      On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:


       
      Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

      In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is 
better functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that 
it makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.

      2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 
foot pipes.

      Josh Luthman
      24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
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      On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

        Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.


        Sent from my iPhone


          On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


           
          Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock 
for so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build 
from order to ship?

          On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

            I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products 
other than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

            It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look 
for trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

            But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to 
forecast.  



            From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
            Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
            To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24



            I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was 
like politicizing toilet paper.



            Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to 
use TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.



            My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 
3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the 
Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  
Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing 
presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the 
roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be 
doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.



            I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll 
holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  
Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)



            From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
            Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24



            Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through 
this whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without 
leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People 
are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the 
pork ramen noodles though.



            Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, 
honey, sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans 
do something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice 
for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If 
anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend 
running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed 
salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 



            If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building 
components for many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to 
scavenge them from vendor warehouses since they arent there 







            On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

              Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find 
toilet paper
              if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your 
holders).

              The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm 
thinking it's
              actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  
Although you'd
              think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and 
then
              warehoused.

              Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, 
no matter
              what the expiration date may say.


              -----Original Message-----
              From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
              Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
              To: af@af.afmug.com
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

              2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, 
not bad
              enough for actual desperation...

              On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
              > Many are.
              > *From:* James Howard
              > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
              > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
              > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              > So basically preppers?
              > 
              > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of 
*ch...@wbmfg.com
              > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
              > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
              > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              > 12 month...
              > 
              > *From:*Ken Hohhof
              > 
              > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
              > 
              > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
              > 
              > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply 
in our 
              > pantry.
              > 
              > *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
              > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
              > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
              > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              > I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
              > 
              > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
              > <p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
              > 
              >     If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them 
around? If
              >     you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
              > 
              >     sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are 
they adding
              >     to your business other than an easy way for customers
              > 
              >     to order your product?
              > 
              >     I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get 
your
              products.
              > 
              >     On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
              > 
              >         Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We 
did have a
              >         gap in production of a few weeks a while back but 
nothing a bit
              >         of safety stock would not cure.
              > 
              >         I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  
They can
              >         stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash 
must be
              >         too tight for them to do that.
              > 
              >         *From:*Josh Luthman
              > 
              >         *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
              > 
              >         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
              > 
              >         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              >         *sigh* daily struggle
              > 
              >         Josh Luthman
              >         24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
              >         Direct: 937-552-2343
              >         1100 Wayne St
              >         Suite 1337
              >         Troy, OH 45373
              > 
              >         On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
              > 
              >             Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie 
up cash
              >             in inventory.
              > 
              >             *From:*Josh Luthman
              > 
              >             *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
              > 
              >             *To:*AFMUG
              > 
              >             *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
              > 
              >             Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for 
them.  Does
              >             any secondary distributor have some?
              > 
              >             Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
              > 
              >             Josh Luthman
              >             24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
              >             Direct: 937-552-2343
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