I am guessing 2% would take twice the milk to make the same amount of
cheese since 2% is half the fat of regular milk right? Or am I
misremembering how much what whole milk has?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 12:23 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sounds like the cows made a deal to get the pigs killed and save
> themselves. Cows are much more devious than we think. Female cows of
> course, bulls, like us men are just dumb
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 11:30 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> At one of our pig farm customers, our dish is on their “whey tank”.  For
>> the first couple years I thought it was a “way tank”.  They get deliveries
>> of whey that is a byproduct from somewhere, probably cheesemaking?
>>
>>
>>
>> Separate milk into curds and whey, the curds become cheese, the whey
>> becomes pork?  Voila, ham and cheese sandwich.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 10:54 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole
>>
>>
>>
>> So I eat a ton of butter, like a pound or two a week, I love the stuff.
>>
>> I've made basic butter a few times, but heavy cream is pricey and butter
>> is work heavy.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also eat a ton of cheese, I love real smoked string cheese, but it's as
>> expensive as beef.
>>
>>
>>
>> I never looked into making cheese because I always assumed it required
>> raw milk.
>>
>>
>>
>> My mom's church food pantry has to dump a boatload of milk every couple
>> weeks because of the way the government works, if you dont take all they
>> offer, they begin to cut you off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mostly 2 percent. So out of curiosity I wondered if there was a cheese
>> that could be made (turns out pasteurized 2 percent is the milk required
>> for parmesan)
>>
>>
>>
>> That's a hard cheese and takes a press and 6 to 12 months to ripen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyhow, once I found out pasteurized commercial milk is actually
>> preferred for most common cheeses since the milk fat is consistent, I've
>> been reading more and more about the cheese, the byproduct of cheese, the
>> uses of the byproduct and the byproduct of the byproduct.
>>
>>
>>
>> Low and behold certain cheese like cheddar have a byproduct of sweet
>> whey, from which sweet cream can be extracted to make butter. So now I'm
>> hooked on reading more. According to most recipes 1 gallon whole milk will
>> yield a pound of hard cheese like cheddar or two pounds of soft cheese and
>> the whey will yield a third to half pound of butter. With the remaining
>> byproduct having a couple uses from protein additive to plant food. Not to
>> shabby for something that can be got for a buck 50 on sale per gallon at
>> retail. And is a waste product of food banks (sadly they cannot accept back
>> processed cheese and butter)
>>
>>
>>
>> But anyway this rabbit hole just goes deeper, turns out the demand for
>> Greek yogurt has caused damage for the environment and the demand for
>> protein additives has caused commercial cheese prices to not rise with
>> inflation or even go down. Companies actually start making cheese to get
>> they sweet whey byproduct to convert into protein.
>>
>>
>>
>> The massive demand for Greek yogurt created an excess of acid whey that
>> used to just be sprayed on farms. But there is too much now, it will kill
>> waterways because the organics it it and produce algae blooms. A lake was
>> killed because of cheese. An entire industry has been created to research
>> what to do with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whole point is milk is some pretty complex shit. It's like an addiction
>> trying to find out more about this. If you're looking to kill some time,
>> start reading about cheese making
>>
>>
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