I was thinking the second scenario. And unless evidence suggests otherwise, ANFO would seem to be the car/truck bomb explosive of choice (unless you’re Mossad taking out Iranian scientists then you have access to the professional grade stuff).
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security Tannerite requires 2100fps iirc. May have been shooting the tannerite and the round couldn't get to velocity at that close, or he had a timer with the recording and wanted to make sure he didnt stop it and painted the ceiling. I keep looking at tannerite or any other low explosive because of its ease to obtain or manufacture. And the relative little damage. I was also told today that Donald Junior was in town, and is under investigation. Both my theory and that theory carry the same weight. Neighbor claims the guy was self employed in IT so the ATT theories are seeming more probable. It wasnt me, fyi On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:07 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Hints seem to be coming out they suspect it may have been one guy, he was in the RV when it exploded, and the target was AT&T. Also people apparently really heard gunshots beforehand, that wasn’t a fake call to lure in the police, so what does that suggest may have happened? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 4:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security Human nature provides security. Most healthy humans will not do this type of stuff. And bad guys are notorious for being idiots. From: Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security There are so many vulnerabilities that trying to pretend anyone can make anything secure is a joke. A crew of 12 or less with a handful of gas bucksaws can shut the east coast/west coast rail transit down, and the result will be the entire north american rail system to be shut down until every inch of track is inspected. A couple dozen pounds of tannerite and a handful of people can take out enough towercoms that no shelter in the US can be entered without being cleared first. This attack, whether or not it was directed at att or not puts the onus where it belongs again, on the service provider. The post morten will develop new best practices. 9/11 was low tech. Oklahoma city was low tech. We didnt defeat the British with high tech. Low tech will always be the biggest of threats. A little bit of publicly available info combined with a little industry knowledge and a motivated guy can wreak a whole lot of havoc and a group of motivated individuals can shut down a nation. On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any ideas - but still. What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some time. Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a massive tin projectile. How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St Louis, Chicago and San Jose? Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services out and data crippled you could do something else even more major. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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