I disagree. Human nature is evil. It’s only by God’s grace we don’t have more 
horrible things happen. 

> On Dec 26, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Human nature provides security. 
> Most healthy humans will not do this type of stuff. 
>  
> And bad guys are notorious for being idiots.
>  
> From: Steve Jones
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:25 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>  
> There are so many vulnerabilities that trying to pretend anyone can make 
> anything secure is a joke.
>  
> A crew of 12 or less with a handful of gas bucksaws can shut the east 
> coast/west coast rail transit down, and the result will be the entire north 
> american rail system to be shut down until every inch of track is inspected.
>  
> A couple dozen pounds of tannerite and a handful of people can take out 
> enough towercoms that no shelter in the US can be entered without being 
> cleared first.
>  
> This attack, whether or not it was directed at att or not puts the onus where 
> it belongs again, on the service provider. The post morten will develop new 
> best practices.
>  
> 9/11 was low tech. 
>  
> Oklahoma city was low tech.
>  
> We didnt defeat the British with high tech.
>  
> Low tech will always be the biggest of threats. A little bit of publicly 
> available info combined with a little industry knowledge and a motivated guy 
> can wreak a whole lot of havoc and a group of motivated individuals can shut 
> down a nation.
>  
>  
>  
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
>> I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any 
>> ideas - but still. 
>> 
>> What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some 
>> time. 
>> 
>> Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and 
>> planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a 
>> massive tin projectile. 
>> 
>> How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with 
>> explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St 
>> Louis, Chicago and San Jose?
>> 
>> Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. 
>> 
>> You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services out 
>> and data crippled you could do something else even more major. 
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