Adding that to my list of things I never thought I'd see.


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 7:10 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Does this list strip .kmz files?  If not, this seems to be where people
> think the RV used to be parked.  Also visible in Streetview.
>
>
>
> Tips came from neighbors who thought it looked like the RV in photos the
> police were circulating.  Guy owned an alarm company, and Internet sleuths
> claim he transferred his house for $0 to a much younger California woman.
> But not the AT&T girl, I figured he would turn out to be an incel who was
> mad at AT&T because Lily wouldn’t have sex with him.
>
>
>
> The guy and his RV seem to have vanished.  Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:50 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>
>
>
> I was thinking the second scenario.  And unless evidence suggests
> otherwise, ANFO would seem to be the car/truck bomb explosive of choice
> (unless you’re Mossad taking out Iranian scientists then you have access to
> the professional grade stuff).
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>
>
>
> Tannerite requires 2100fps iirc.  May have been shooting the tannerite and
> the round couldn't get to velocity at that close, or he had a timer with
> the recording and wanted to make sure he didnt stop it and painted the
> ceiling. I keep looking at tannerite or any other low explosive because of
> its ease to obtain or manufacture. And the relative little damage.
>
>
>
> I was also told today that Donald Junior was in town, and is under
> investigation.
>
>
>
> Both my theory and that theory carry the same weight.
>
>
>
> Neighbor claims the guy was self employed in IT so the ATT theories are
> seeming more probable.
>
>
>
> It wasnt me, fyi
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:07 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Hints seem to be coming out they suspect it may have been one guy, he was
> in the RV when it exploded, and the target was AT&T.  Also people
> apparently really heard gunshots beforehand, that wasn’t a fake call to
> lure in the police, so what does that suggest may have happened?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 4:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>
>
>
> Human nature provides security.
>
> Most healthy humans will not do this type of stuff.
>
>
>
> And bad guys are notorious for being idiots.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:25 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>
>
>
> There are so many vulnerabilities that trying to pretend anyone can make
> anything secure is a joke.
>
>
>
> A crew of 12 or less with a handful of gas bucksaws can shut the east
> coast/west coast rail transit down, and the result will be the entire north
> american rail system to be shut down until every inch of track is inspected.
>
>
>
> A couple dozen pounds of tannerite and a handful of people can take out
> enough towercoms that no shelter in the US can be entered without being
> cleared first.
>
>
>
> This attack, whether or not it was directed at att or not puts the onus
> where it belongs again, on the service provider. The post morten will
> develop new best practices.
>
>
>
> 9/11 was low tech.
>
>
>
> Oklahoma city was low tech.
>
>
>
> We didnt defeat the British with high tech.
>
>
>
> Low tech will always be the biggest of threats. A little bit of publicly
> available info combined with a little industry knowledge and a motivated
> guy can wreak a whole lot of havoc and a group of motivated individuals can
> shut down a nation.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any
> ideas - but still.
>
> What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some
> time.
>
> Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and
> planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a
> massive tin projectile.
>
> How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with
> explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St
> Louis, Chicago and San Jose?
>
> Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns.
>
> You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services
> out and data crippled you could do something else even more major.
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