I dunno….  I don’t believe there are any aliens in my garage.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 10:23 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security


That checks out.
On 12/28/2020 11:20 AM, James Howard wrote:
You’re saying that people with garages with basements believe in aliens?

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 8:07 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com><mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

How many people on this list would have to make the same disclaimer if they 
gave someone their house?

I remember a discussion not too long ago about people whose garages had 
basements.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

This is getting better and better. Dude supposedly believed in aliens and sent 
a weird letter to the 29 yo broad about his plywood attic and weird basement. 
This is the gift that keeps on giving

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Well, if you want to believe DailyMail, he may have had a “relationship” with 
the 29 year old woman’s mother.  So you may be close.

And a neighbor may have reported to the FBI a year ago that he was making bombs 
in his RV.  And that his RV may have been spotted at the bombing site in the 
days prior as if he had been scouting the site.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

He supposedly gave 2 houses to 2 women who didnt know him.
This is it guys, they have the evidence
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E
Except the guy goes from chemtrails to missiles to direct energy weapons.
This is gonna get super fun.
Deep state psyop
Even saw a guy point out  - AN th ON y Q uinn WARN er
Dudes, Q knows. 63 years ago Q genetically modified this super soldier silent 
cell to activate should the deep state try to subvert power from the people.

I'm going to feed these people. I may even have to get on 4chan again.


On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:35 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
I am guessing he gave the house to a daughter.  Maybe she didn’t even know.
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Most people have some level of mental illness after 2020.

As for the specifics, which clue do you want to hang your hat on?  AT&T?  
Lyrics to “Downtown”?  Or deeding his house and his brother’s house to the 
mystery woman, who deeded the brother’s house back to the mother.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

So, what was his deal other than mental illness?

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

"Google News - Anthony Quinn Warner confirmed by DNA test as Nashville 
Christmas bomber" 
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 2:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
I have no idea how many monster generators FB has in Utah.  Plus double 
redundant feeds from Rocky Mountain Power.  Its own substation.  Plus it has 
fiber from others that I did not put in.  So who knows how many routes they 
have out of town.  And this is just the first phase of four for that site.  
Even a Oklahoma sized anfo bomb would not be able to damage more than about 10% 
of the place.

From: Robert
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:24 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

The first serious "data center" I got to tour in the 80's was run by GE and had 
power on either side of the racks from separate _Grids_  one side was Canadian 
and the other was the NY grid.   They felt confident that it would take a CME 
to take that down and then inside the shielded building they had a GE power 
turbine for the off grid power.   With a building full of fuel to power it for 
22 days..  This was way before the Internet.
On 12/26/20 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I seem to remember that in Chicago the telephone COs had redundant power feeds 
out opposite sides of the building to different substations.  (plus battery and 
diesel backup)  Fiber routes probably similar.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:34 AM
To: Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net; AnimalFarm Microwave 
Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

It didn’t.  One single isolated incident is not a coordinated attack on 100 or 
1000 datacenters.  This is the rude fart of an anarchist.
And you watch how fast the network heals in Nashville...

From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

Except it just did.

On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit.

FB alone has about 100 data centers.

The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables running 
hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal compass 
points.  Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB cable and 
then cutting it, does not take them down.  You will have to hit all the routes.

Then the buildings itself is huge.  Like a square mile huge.  100% poured 
reinforced concrete.  Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would get 
shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would just wipe 
out some administrative offices etc.  Not even get close to where the servers 
are.

And then do that 100 other places at the same time?
And then you only got FB.  Google, Amazon...

Never gonna happen.



From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired again. 
It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed.

While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed at 
multiple places down the road.

Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes place.

On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME will 
do it all.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers all 
down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back together.

Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe.

On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl 
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and communications grid 
is.

It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at large 
power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut things 
at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but still affect 
metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines.

There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the middle of 
nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple grids and 
fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and communication. This 
would hurt more than any single location attack.


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes 
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any ideas 
- but still.

What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some time.

Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and planning 
and getting through security and learning to basically fly a massive tin 
projectile.

How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with 
explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St Louis, 
Chicago and San Jose?

Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns.

You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services out 
and data crippled you could do something else even more major.
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