That checks out.

On 12/28/2020 11:20 AM, James Howard wrote:

You’re saying that people with garages with basements believe in aliens?

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 8:07 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

How many people on this list would have to make the same disclaimer if they gave someone their house?

I remember a discussion not too long ago about people whose garages had basements.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:14 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

This is getting better and better. Dude supposedly believed in aliens and sent a weird letter to the 29 yo broad about his plywood attic and weird basement. This is the gift that keeps on giving

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    Well, if you want to believe DailyMail, he may have had a
    “relationship” with the 29 year old woman’s mother. So you may be
    close.

    And a neighbor may have reported to the FBI a year ago that he was
    making bombs in his RV.  And that his RV may have been spotted at
    the bombing site in the days prior as if he had been scouting the
    site.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:51 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

    He supposedly gave 2 houses to 2 women who didnt know him.

    This is it guys, they have the evidence

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E
    <https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E>

    Except the guy goes from chemtrails to missiles to direct energy
    weapons.

    This is gonna get super fun.

    Deep state psyop

    Even saw a guy point out  - AN th ON y Q uinn WARN er

    Dudes, Q knows. 63 years ago Q genetically modified this super
    soldier silent cell to activate should the deep state try to
    subvert power from the people.

    I'm going to feed these people. I may even have to get on 4chan again.

    On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:35 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

        I am guessing he gave the house to a daughter.  Maybe she
        didn’t even know.

        Sent from my iPhone

            On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
            <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

            

            Most people have some level of mental illness after 2020.

            As for the specifics, which clue do you want to hang your
            hat on?  AT&T? Lyrics to “Downtown”?  Or deeding his house
            and his brother’s house to the mystery woman, who deeded
            the brother’s house back to the mother.

            *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
            McCown via AF
            *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:11 PM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com
            <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

            So, what was his deal other than mental illness?

            *From:*Jaime Solorza

            *Sent:*Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:13 PM

            *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

            "Google News - Anthony Quinn Warner confirmed by DNA test
            as Nashville Christmas bomber"
            
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
            
<https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen>

            On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 2:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF
            <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

                I have no idea how many monster generators FB has in
                Utah.  Plus double redundant feeds from Rocky Mountain
                Power. Its own substation.  Plus it has fiber from
                others that I did not put in.  So who knows how many
                routes they have out of town.  And this is just the
                first phase of four for that site.  Even a Oklahoma
                sized anfo bomb would not be able to damage more than
                about 10% of the place.

                *From:*Robert

                *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:24 PM

                *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

                The first serious "data center" I got to tour in the
                80's was run by GE and had power on either side of the
                racks from separate _Grids_ one side was Canadian and
                the other was the NY grid.   They felt confident that
                it would take a CME to take that down and then inside
                the shielded building they had a GE power turbine for
                the off grid power.   With a building full of fuel to
                power it for 22 days.. This was way before the Internet.

                On 12/26/20 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                    I seem to remember that in Chicago the telephone
                    COs had redundant power feeds out opposite sides
                    of the building to different substations. (plus
                    battery and diesel backup)  Fiber routes probably
                    similar.

                    *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
                    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
                    *Chuck McCown via AF
                    *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:34 AM
                    *To:* Matt Hoppes
                    mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>;
                    AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                    mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
                    *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

                    It didn’t.  One single isolated incident is not a
                    coordinated attack on 100 or 1000 datacenters.
                    This is the rude fart of an anarchist.

                    And you watch how fast the network heals in
                    Nashville...

                    *From:*Matt Hoppes

                    *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:31 AM

                    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                    *Cc:*ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

                    Except it just did.

                        On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via
                        AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
                        wrote:

                        

                        My opinion is this kind of thinking is total
                        horseshit.

                        FB alone has about 100 data centers.

                        The one I installed all their long haul routes
                        to has 5 large cables running hundreds of
                        miles radiating from the data center in all
                        the ordinal compass points.  Just knowing
                        which gravel road out in the country has a FB
                        cable and then cutting it, does not take them
                        down.  You will have to hit all the routes.

                        Then the buildings itself is huge.  Like a
                        square mile huge.  100% poured reinforced
                        concrete. Even if you had a rider truck full
                        of anfo you would get shot at while driving
                        through the perimeter fence and then you would
                        just wipe out some administrative offices etc.
                        Not even get close to where the servers are.

                        And then do that 100 other places at the same
                        time?

                        And then you only got FB. Google, Amazon...

                        Never gonna happen.

                        *From:*Matt Hoppes

                        *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM

                        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

                        Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired
                        again. And then repaired again. It all adds up
                        down the route. Plus the data center is
                        destroyed.

                        While folks are concentrating on ground zero
                        the fiber is being destroyed at multiple
                        places down the road.

                        Then with infrastructure destroyed a major
                        attack of some sort takes place.

                            On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince
                            <part15...@gmail.com
                            <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                            

                            You don't need a terrorist to take out the
                            satellites. One well-timed CME will do it all.

                            bp

                            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                            On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                                At least the satellites are safe, we
                                have Space Force.

                                *From:*AF
                                mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
                                <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
                                Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
                                *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020
                                10:18 AM
                                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                                mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                                <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center
                                Security

                                Never thought about that. Yo get the
                                data center back up. But your fibers
                                all down. In 5 places. But you only
                                find out once you get one back together.

                                Yeah. We’re safe because no one has
                                done it. Not because we’re safe.

                                    On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM,
                                    Darin Steffl
                                    <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
                                    <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
                                    wrote:

                                    

                                    I've thought about how vulnerable
                                    the entire US power and
                                    communications grid is.

                                    It would be so easy to cut
                                    multiple long haul fibers, plant
                                    bombs at large power transmission
                                    lines and then sync it all
                                    together to explode, cut things at
                                    the same time. It could easily be
                                    done in rural areas only but still
                                    affect metros since they all feed
                                    from rural power and fiber lines.

                                    There's also no cameras or as many
                                    people monitoring things in the
                                    middle of nowhere. If this was
                                    done over multiple states and
                                    targeted multiple grids and
                                    fibers, you could almost knock out
                                    90% of all power and
                                    communication. This would hurt
                                    more than any single location attack.

                                    On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt
                                    Hoppes
                                    <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                                    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
                                    wrote:

                                        I hesitated on where to post
                                        this. Not that I think I’m
                                        giving anyone any ideas - but
                                        still.

                                        What happened in Nashville has
                                        actually been a concern of
                                        mine for some time.

                                        Look at 9/11. Huge loss of
                                        life yes. But that took a lot
                                        of effort and planning and
                                        getting through security and
                                        learning to basically fly a
                                        massive tin projectile.

                                        How much more damage could a
                                        small group do with 5 or 6
                                        vans loaded with explosives in
                                        a coordinated attack on say:
                                        NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St
                                        Louis, Chicago and San Jose?

                                        Throw in a few major CO
                                        switching offices in some
                                        major towns.

                                        You’ve caused mass disaster.
                                        Minimal planning. And now with
                                        911 services out and data
                                        crippled you could do
                                        something else even more major.
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