I think i posted having to wear safety glasses and armed with can of wasp
spray on a tower in San Angelo, Texas because of nest near an 11GHz dish
and parent Birdy birds flying angrily at me..

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> Always nice to have giddy regulatory authorities than pissy ones.
>
> *From:* Aeron Wireless
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers
>
> Update: Just heard from the DNR. An egg-less nest is not protected.
> However, they encourage you not to remove the nest unless there are no
> other options. Once the nest is active (with egg or young birds) then there
> are restrictions on climbing. Restrictions are based on what stage the
> egg/birds are in. This stage may require permits as well - we didn't get
> into that. This DNR biologist wants a max disruption of 2 hours during the
> active nest stage. So she encourages spreading the work out over weeks with
> short periods on the tower.
> So I will be climbing ASAP. During my work, I'll install a camera pointing
> at the nest so we know exactly what stage the nest is in. Plus a camera is
> a nice gesture to the DNR, one they are giddy about.
> Once I got a hold of the DNR biologist, they were very helpful and
> accommodating.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:45 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
>> I was out chatting with the farmer at one of our tower sites on a grain
>> leg about a week ago and he told me that he had a pair of Ospreys build a
>> nest on the top of the leg last year.  He said he called a friend of his at
>> the DNR and talked to him about it.  The DNR guy said that if there are no
>> eggs he was fine to tear it down but if there are eggs he needed to wait
>> till they hatched and left before tearing it down.  He had his nephew climb
>> up and there was an egg but the egg had a hole in it so they took pictures
>> and sent to the DNR.  The DNR said that the birds often puncture their own
>> eggs trying to move them around in the nest but since that was the only egg
>> in the nest he was fine to take the whole nest down.  He said he threw it
>> all off and put an orange cone up there which has kept them off so far.
>> As mentioned earlier, there are federal and state regulations so your
>> mileage may vary depending on how your state (or possibly even who you talk
>> to at the state).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 2, 2021 10:51 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't want it coming after me even if I were on the ground let alone
>> a ladder!  Most birds will defend their nest.  Get an outdoor speaker,
>> mount it as close as you can get it to the nest and play a looped recording
>> of a yapping chihuahua.  Birds don't stay around where they can't listen
>> and talk to each other, even anti-social ones like raptors I think wouldn't
>> like it.  These are a world-wide species, why is it protected?
>>
>> On 4/2/21 7:15 AM, Aeron Wireless wrote:
>>
>> I got a call from a local DNR volunteer informing me that Ospreys are
>> building a nest on my monopole platform. He's saying that because it's a
>> protected bird, I can't climb the tower until they leave in the fall. I
>> have an email into the state DNR but no response yesterday and today being
>> a gov holiday I don't expect a response until next week. Kinda freaking out
>> here. I need to mount a few PTP links. I was planning on a climb today, but
>> am holding off to hear definitively. This is the main tower for my WISP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Google kung-fu led me to a NATE presentation that says that climbing can
>> be done with precautions. Talked to the tower owner (a small private owner,
>> not one of the big three) who suggested adding a ring below the platform
>> with the nest for the new PTPs. Can this be done with the birds on the
>> tower?
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone dealt with Ospreys before?
>>
>>
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