Always nice to have giddy regulatory authorities than pissy ones.
From: Aeron Wireless
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers
Update: Just heard from the DNR. An egg-less nest is not protected. However,
they encourage you not to remove the nest unless there are no other options.
Once the nest is active (with egg or young birds) then there are restrictions
on climbing. Restrictions are based on what stage the egg/birds are in. This
stage may require permits as well - we didn't get into that. This DNR biologist
wants a max disruption of 2 hours during the active nest stage. So she
encourages spreading the work out over weeks with short periods on the tower.
So I will be climbing ASAP. During my work, I'll install a camera pointing at
the nest so we know exactly what stage the nest is in. Plus a camera is a nice
gesture to the DNR, one they are giddy about.
Once I got a hold of the DNR biologist, they were very helpful and
accommodating.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:45 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
I was out chatting with the farmer at one of our tower sites on a grain leg
about a week ago and he told me that he had a pair of Ospreys build a nest on
the top of the leg last year. He said he called a friend of his at the DNR and
talked to him about it. The DNR guy said that if there are no eggs he was fine
to tear it down but if there are eggs he needed to wait till they hatched and
left before tearing it down. He had his nephew climb up and there was an egg
but the egg had a hole in it so they took pictures and sent to the DNR. The
DNR said that the birds often puncture their own eggs trying to move them
around in the nest but since that was the only egg in the nest he was fine to
take the whole nest down. He said he threw it all off and put an orange cone
up there which has kept them off so far. As mentioned earlier, there are
federal and state regulations so your mileage may vary depending on how your
state (or possibly even who you talk to at the state).
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 10:51 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers
I wouldn't want it coming after me even if I were on the ground let alone a
ladder! Most birds will defend their nest. Get an outdoor speaker, mount it
as close as you can get it to the nest and play a looped recording of a yapping
chihuahua. Birds don't stay around where they can't listen and talk to each
other, even anti-social ones like raptors I think wouldn't like it. These are
a world-wide species, why is it protected?
On 4/2/21 7:15 AM, Aeron Wireless wrote:
I got a call from a local DNR volunteer informing me that Ospreys are
building a nest on my monopole platform. He's saying that because it's a
protected bird, I can't climb the tower until they leave in the fall. I have an
email into the state DNR but no response yesterday and today being a gov
holiday I don't expect a response until next week. Kinda freaking out here. I
need to mount a few PTP links. I was planning on a climb today, but am holding
off to hear definitively. This is the main tower for my WISP.
Google kung-fu led me to a NATE presentation that says that climbing can be
done with precautions. Talked to the tower owner (a small private owner, not
one of the big three) who suggested adding a ring below the platform with the
nest for the new PTPs. Can this be done with the birds on the tower?
Has anyone dealt with Ospreys before?
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