That's what we been doing for a long time. The ubiquiti switches are
manageable from the UISP. We use a VLAN for management.
On 6/19/21 7:10 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
UBNT US-8-60W is $109
VLAN tag each AP port. Set up your downlink as a VLAN trunk. Then
each AP will have its own private channel back to your core/edge router.
I am no VLAN expert by any means. There are lots of experts here.
But this is the method I used literally 18 years ago when faced with
this same problem. I used a cisco managed switch that was built for
wide temperature conditions. 2900 or 2500 or something like that.
Worked like a champ.
Are you sure the ubiquity switch you have at each tower does not
support VLANs?
*From:* Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Saturday, June 19, 2021 6:23 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BNG dynamic provisioning Re: strange outage
We have in each tower a ubiquiti switch and one or two APs plus an
uplink(to next tower towards the gateway) and a downlink(away from the
gateway). We don't have that many customers to support a huge investment.
Ok, looks like the advice is to replace the ubiquiti switches with
ubiquiti routers? I haven't seen in router setup any provision for
BNG, maybe I'm missing something. I'd never get management willing to
replace a $100 switch with a $3,000 Cisco router, especially on a
network where we wouldn't make that much ROI in several years (we have
a board of directors who keep threatening to shut us down, they're
mostly from last century and barely know how to use a cell-phone).
Am I wrong in thinking we can configure an Edgerouter X to prevent
these multicast storms we're having in our networks? I'm loathe to
use any natting, can I leave these in bridge-mode and get a solution
to the problem?
On 6/18/21 5:24 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Absolutely! Glad to hear others are doing this - it’s what Amplex
has been doing for years.
I get really tired of the ‘experts’ telling everyone there is only
one ‘right’ way to build a network, yet have never heard of this.
Mark
On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
We use the same BNG for all our residential subs in a market. GPON,
Active Ethernet, and Fixed Wireless. Some of the fixed wireless
stuff requires a hack to run the CVLANS through another box to add
the second tag but that's cheap and easy enough. A Netonix 6 mini
hanging off a switch can do it with either 0x88a8 or a second 0x8100
tag. Cambium supports QinQ natively.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 2:36 PM D. Bernardi
<dberna...@zitomedia.net> wrote:
Thanks. This seems fairly common on GPON
networks as well so you could use this feature
for both GPON and Fixed Wireless on the same BGN.
At 01:59 PM 6/18/2021, you wrote:
>Juniper. We have a MX5 in production and a
>MX204 I'm setting up right now to replace it. Â
>Subscriber management is additional
>licensing. Not sure if just dynamic interface
>creation requires subscriber management
>licensing. I just looked on our production BNG
>and it isn't using subscriber-vlan. Â
>
>subscriber-accounting
>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 1Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 Â Â Â Â Â 0Â
 permanent
>
>Â subscriber-authentication
>Â Â Â Â Â Â 0Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 Â Â Â Â Â 0Â Â
permanent
>
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>Â Â Â Â 1Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 Â Â Â Â Â 0Â Â permanent
>
>Â subscriber-vlan
>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 0Â Â Â Â Â
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><https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junose15.1/topics/concept/dynamic-interfaces-overview.html
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<https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junose15.1/topics/concept/dynamic-interfaces-overview.html>
>
>On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 12:34 PM D. Bernardi
><<mailto:dberna...@zitomedia.net>dberna...@zitomedia.net> wrote:
>At 12:35 PM 6/18/2021, Carl Peterson wrote:
> >We've gone full circle - Flat to fully routed to
> >MPLS/VPLS over a routed network back to
> >flat. You hit a scaling issue with routed
> >networks as you hit 10G and above, especially if
> >you aren't using Mikrotik or other low cost
> >routing. Real carrier grade switching is a lot
> >lower cost, lower power, and much easier to manage. Â
> >
> >Every customer has their own dedicated circuit
> >(SVLAN.CVLAN). The corresponding interface on
> >the BNG is dynamically created for the
> >subscriber with attributes out of radius. Â
> >Something like this isn't the right answer at
> >100 customers but you should consider it or
> >something like it once you go north of a few k subs. Â
>
>
>What are you using for the BNG and does it
>require an additional license for dynamic interface creation?
>
>
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