Based on what I've read, and my own experience with the PTP radios, LTU
probably isn't the best option if interference is the problem.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:01 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That wasn't a serious concern for me, no.
>
> They tend to leave old product behind and stop supporting it in their
> various softwares.  "old" could be 2 years (Air Vision) or maybe a lot
> longer, but you can't know ahead of time.  If they've pulled the rug out
> from under me several times and yet I keep buying their stuff then at some
> point it's my own fault.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:19 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
>
> Like suing you...
>
> On 12/17/21 12:27 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Lol
> >
> > I actually really like LTU, but I just think it’s safe to assume
> > Ubiquiti will screw me over if I build a business around it.
> >
> > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via
> > AF
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> > *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> >
> > UBNT still around?
> >
> > *From:*Jan-GAMs
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 12:29 PM
> >
> > *To:*af@af.afmug.com
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> >
> > Is ubnt LTU not being considered?
> >
> > On 12/17/21 11:02, Mathew Howard wrote:
> >
> >     Yeah, that...
> >
> >     We've had pretty good luck with mmwave if we keep them under 1/4
> >     mile or so, but that's about as far as you can push ptmp and keep a
> >     reasonably reliable connection. ptp mmwave is useful for several
> >     miles, if you use them for the right purposes.
> >
> >     On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> >     <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> >
> >         Like extreme short range, they quit in bad weather, things like
> >         that?
> >
> >         *From:*Mathew Howard
> >
> >         *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> >
> >         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >
> >         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> >
> >         Well, technically, mmwave radios pretty much do eliminate that
> >         problem. It's just that they add a bunch of other problems...
> >
> >         On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:18 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> >         <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> >
> >             Gee guys, I thought the mm wave radios were going to
> >             eliminate the problem...
> >
> >             *From:*Daniel White
> >
> >             *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 10:42 AM
> >
> >             *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Jaime Solorza
> >
> >             *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> >
> >             Better antennas.  Smaller channels.  Closer sites to the
> >             subscriber.  Better use of geography to block noise.  Lower
> >             AGL of APs on towers.  More antenna gain.
> >
> >             This isn't an equipment question really... it is an RF
> >             Engineering exercise.
> >
> >             All things equal equipment like Cambium 450 will outperform
> >             equipment based on wifi chipsets (Cambium ePMP, Mimosa,
> >             Ubiquiti).  Beamforming is a big plus (but only helps if the
> >             subscribers are distributed).
> >
> >             I'd be using 30deg horns on everything I can.  Keep the subs
> >             close in, and keep the AP's as low to the ground as possible
> >             to prevent picking up distant interference.
> >
> >             Image removed by sender. photograph
> >
> >
> >
> >             *Daniel White
> >             *Co-Founder
> >
> >             *phone:*+1 (702) 470-2770
> >             *direct:*+1 (702) 470-2766
> >
> >                 Jaime Solorza
> >
> >                 December 17, 2021 at 09:34
> >
> >                 Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz
> >                 interference especially with DFS hits, the normal
> >                 channels are overcrowded...
> >
> >                 Ubiquiti and Cambium is mostly what they are using....a
> >                 few Mimosa out there but I know one wisp who replaced
> >                 all of his with Cambium and 60Ghz AirFiber..
> >
> >                 Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
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