I’ve wondered how long firewood wood really last if everyone was trying to use it. Wasn’t there a firewood crisis in the 19th century before they started using coal for everything?
I think reliance on firewood in the apocalypse comes with an implicit assumption that everybody else died. If they haven’t died yet then expect competition. I don’t worry too much about water. You can’t go anywhere in the Northeast without tripping over a stream or a spring. If the spring water is contaminated then so is the well water and you’re screwed either way. How much is triple insulation? Does that mean R57 in the walls instead of R19? From: ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:09 PM To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home Triple insulated home can be heated by only the bodies inside. Most areas (other than where I live) there may be wood to burn. You could always use a parabolic solar cooker for cooking. Solar hydronic. Solar electric. Water is the huge thing. Need to pump a well. I think move to the tropics where you can eat off the land/sea and run around naked all the time. That is a good solution to the end of the world. Not much of a prepper anymore. Too old I guess. Plus I have an odd condition where I don’t get hungry. So I could starve to death without much suffering. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:44 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home Maybe it’s a matter of being self-reliant until your solar panels break vs being self-reliant until your fuel runs out. Years vs months. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:47 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home That said, the last time I checked, propane and wood pellets cost half that of electricity for heating. And natural gas was half that again. So natural gas vs electric heat pump for heating would probably be the same energy cost. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 8:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home 3.41 BTU per watt for resistive heating. Heat pump gives you way more heat per watt. That is why most of the electric cars have gone to heat pumps for the heater. The heat pump Tesla will run the heater for 36 hours and still leave you with enough battery to get home in many cases. Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com> www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> From: Robert Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:11 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home The $800 mini-splits I am looking at put out about 6K BTU's of heat on 400 Watts. The home depot $300 heaters put out 5K BTU's but require 1500 watts.. Not going to do well in the winter overnight off grid... And no a/c in the summer... On 1/20/22 5:53 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: $1895? For a one room ac/heater? Home Depot has something similar for $300. Is it the decal? Hood ornament? On 1/19/22 05:13, Zach Underwood wrote: If you have not already gotten the mini splits take a look at https://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/ It has direct PV inputs when sunny it would put no load on your inverter IT can be put in solar only mode where it will scale the cool/heat output to match the power it is getting PV It can run overnight if you wish by giving in 240volt AC connection. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:08 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: I am working on my first off grid home, and hope to do another in the future somewhere more northerly.. This one is in the sunbelt of N. Nevada and currently I have 4K of solar feeding a 30KW LFP battery bank through currently a Victron charge controller and a couple midnight solar inverters to generate a flawed 220 as well as two sides of 110. ( the 220 will not run the well controller even though supposedly configured for such. ) I am upgrading the inverters and controller to a https://www.signaturesolar.com/products/8kw-48v-240vac-split-phase-120a-250vdc-off-grid-inverter-by-growatt planning on doing a couple 9K mini-splits for heating/cooling. I wonder if this group has some gotchas that I might learn from in advance before I buy myself into a corner... I'm all ears.. thanks!! -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) My website <http://zachunderwood.me> advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com> _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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