So far, HE has not matched the price.  
We went back and forth all day Friday.  At the end of the day HE said they had 
to wait to get a price match approval.
We waited, then signed with Cogent.  

I have used Cogent for years without issue.  I do remember 20 years ago massive 
HE issues.  But no good reason.  Just price.  We will most likely add HE as a 
second provider within the next year.  
From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent

Besides price, are there other reasons you'd pick cogent over HE? 

I assume HE will match cogent price? 

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 3:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  Price

  From: Darin Steffl 
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 1:58 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent

  Why Cogent first instead of HE? 

  HE's network is way bigger and better connected than Cogent. They peer more 
than any other transit provider.

  I guess I'm interested in learning more about what your criteria is in 
picking one if the price is the same.

  I'm glad to see them work down price and keep beating the other.

  On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 1:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    No, but they can get there.  
    I will probably go with Cogent first then add HE later.  


    From: Mike Hammett 
    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 12:53 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent

    Remember that it's only a steal if it gets you what you want. Neither HE 
nor Cogent have a full view of the Internet.




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    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    Midwest Internet Exchange

    The Brothers WISP






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    From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com>
    To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
    Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 1:41:29 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent


    Seems like only a couple of years ago that 1G for $500 was a steal.  
    I remember selling 1G for $13K about 8 years ago.   

    Chuck McCown
    McCown Technology Corporation
    8401 N Commerce Dr
    Lake Point, Utah 84074
    801-250-9503
    435-830-4306 cell 
    www.mccowntech.com
    www.microtrench-blades.com
    www.terabitnetworks.com


    From: Chuck McCown via AF 
    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 12:02 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent

    Now we are down to $650

    I ought to do a zoom call with both of them and do it auction style.
    From: Chuck McCown via AF 
    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 11:57 AM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
    Subject: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent

    I have them in a price war right now.  Not sure which to go with now.  We 
are down to $670/10G  free install free BGP.
    Chuck McCown
    McCown Technology Corporation
    8401 N Commerce Dr
    Lake Point, Utah 84074
    801-250-9503
    435-830-4306 cell 
    www.mccowntech.com
    www.microtrench-blades.com
    www.terabitnetworks.com


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