That's a killer deal. When you add HE later, both combined will still be
cheaper than one 10G from other providers like Telia, Lumen, Windstream,
Zayo, etc.

I'd rather have two 10G circuits from Cogent and HE than only one 10G from
any other provider.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 8:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> 10g 12 months $650
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 23, 2022, at 7:09 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I think they will always match one another because they are fierce
> competitors, what was the final price and term?
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 6:58 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> The default for any carrier is to send the traffic where you get paid vs
>> those that you don't.
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>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:06:31 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent
>>
>> Ya, like HE always preferring paid peers over free.  That has came up a
>> few times.
>>
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Justin Wilson
>> (Lists)
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:44 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent
>>
>>
>>
>> As with anything there are good and bad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both do some heavy traffic manipulation. Cogent is not very open-internet
>> friendly.  They do not peer with folks so their entire network is pay to
>> peer.  This can result in some congestion at major points. Some of the
>> major de-peering events have been due to AT&T and others de-peering with
>> cogent because of Cogent wanting money to peer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of Hurricane’s network is either Telia Upstream or peering.  This
>> can result in some issues as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as a perfect backbone/upstream/transit provider.
>> They all have issues.  What you want it diversity.  When talking to them
>> ask about their routes in and out of your location.  How much capacity do
>> they have? Are they taking the same routes as everyone else?
>>
>>
>>
>> Many of the xISPs I see do a blend of Cogent, Hurricane and peering on an
>> IX or two. If they want to add some extra diversity they can add in an
>> AT&T, Verizon, or other ILEC.  With peering they typically don’t need to as
>> a lot o the traffic gets shoved off to a good peering fabric.
>>
>>
>>
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