In our case, we had a 10gig HE unpaid peering direct. Our customers backup provider, providing around 500 meg had a paid transit to HE, they sent ALL traffic to the paid transit, though another AS. They ALWAYS prefer their paid transits, even over direct peering’s. I have only seen this on HEs network…
[LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com Need MikroTik Cloud Management: https://cloud.linktechs.net From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent The default for any carrier is to send the traffic where you get paid vs those that you don't. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=CBEB427F-D654-3E05-BE86-5B6B2F43EB99&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-7d91ded002009421c84a4695e115f380e1fa3d0f> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent Ya, like HE always preferring paid peers over free. That has came up a few times. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Justin Wilson (Lists) Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent As with anything there are good and bad. Both do some heavy traffic manipulation. Cogent is not very open-internet friendly. They do not peer with folks so their entire network is pay to peer. This can result in some congestion at major points. Some of the major de-peering events have been due to AT&T and others de-peering with cogent because of Cogent wanting money to peer. Most of Hurricane’s network is either Telia Upstream or peering. This can result in some issues as well. There is no such thing as a perfect backbone/upstream/transit provider. They all have issues. What you want it diversity. When talking to them ask about their routes in and out of your location. How much capacity do they have? Are they taking the same routes as everyone else? Many of the xISPs I see do a blend of Cogent, Hurricane and peering on an IX or two. If they want to add some extra diversity they can add in an AT&T, Verizon, or other ILEC. With peering they typically don’t need to as a lot o the traffic gets shoved off to a good peering fabric. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net> — https://j2sw.com<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fj2sw.com&umid=68F680D8-D640-5B05-95E5-112809FEF260&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-6b1e7dac85910749db439c6d55b1bfbd5d8a8e31> (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fblog.j2sw.com&umid=68F680D8-D640-5B05-95E5-112809FEF260&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-21cb3a5ee0b9eed7635b07e04d45ad19f4460a6d> - Podcast and Blog -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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