Most IXs have HE routes as well, so we pull those in from the IXs.
Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 5:08 PM Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote: > We have been doing local peering for CDNs and Telia for remaining routes > and Cogent last resort for years with no major issues. > > We peer with Telia in multiple locations throughout the US and also take > in local peering routes from local IXs and PNIs. Peering traffic is > preferred to our customer with Telia being second in line and then Cogent > being last resort. Its worked pretty well for us and our customers. > > Erich Kaiser > RTA formerly The Fusion Network > ASN 19754 > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:17 AM Daniel Pautz via AF <af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: > >> The one thing I will say between the two of them (we have multi 100G >> ports with both HE, Cogent and a dozen other providers). The only way to >> get good prices with HE is on fixed ports, Cogent and most other providers >> allow bursting / aggregated setups which saves a ton of money if you need >> ports in multi locations. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess >> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 6:50 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent >> >> >> >> In our case, we had a 10gig HE unpaid peering direct. Our customers >> backup provider, providing around 500 meg had a paid transit to HE, they >> sent ALL traffic to the paid transit, though another AS. They ALWAYS >> prefer their paid transits, even over direct peering’s. I have only seen >> this on HEs network… >> >> >> >> >> >> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >> >> *Dennis Burgess* >> >> >> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >> >> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >> >> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >> >> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >> >> Need MikroTik Cloud Management: https://cloud.linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:57 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent >> >> >> >> The default for any carrier is to send the traffic where you get paid vs >> those that you don't. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> <https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=CBEB427F-D654-3E05-BE86-5B6B2F43EB99&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-7d91ded002009421c84a4695e115f380e1fa3d0f> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:06:31 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent >> >> Ya, like HE always preferring paid peers over free. That has came up a >> few times. >> >> >> >> >> >> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >> >> >> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, >> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >> >> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >> >> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >> >> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >> >> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson (Lists) >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:44 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent >> >> >> >> As with anything there are good and bad. >> >> >> >> Both do some heavy traffic manipulation. Cogent is not very open-internet >> friendly. They do not peer with folks so their entire network is pay to >> peer. This can result in some congestion at major points. Some of the >> major de-peering events have been due to AT&T and others de-peering with >> cogent because of Cogent wanting money to peer. >> >> >> >> Most of Hurricane’s network is either Telia Upstream or peering. This >> can result in some issues as well. >> >> >> >> There is no such thing as a perfect backbone/upstream/transit provider. >> They all have issues. What you want it diversity. When talking to them >> ask about their routes in and out of your location. How much capacity do >> they have? Are they taking the same routes as everyone else? >> >> >> >> Many of the xISPs I see do a blend of Cogent, Hurricane and peering on an >> IX or two. If they want to add some extra diversity they can add in an >> AT&T, Verizon, or other ILEC. 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