Rock/cobble will run it way up.  Depth is not a huge issue.  Having to pothole 
100 times in a 500’ bore job is a huge pain.  
No rocks in Illinois, right?
You can do this with a crew of 2 but best if you have 2 guys for potholing out 
ahead of the drill, then at least two, one to run the drill and one to run the 
tracker.  Good to have a fifth guy running the water/mud truck.  So 2-5 guys.  
One guy can do it all by himself with the underground magnetics “drill to box” 
package.  You set the locator out ahead of the drill and the remote display 
tells you how to steer to the locator.   We have never done it but I am pretty 
sure we could do it if we tried.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 1:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

What drives that rate up? big crews? big wage? depth of bore? a lot of 
obstruction? drilling through stone? is the cost of operating high, licensing, 
permitting, prevailing wage, union crews? Ive seen numbers all over the place, 
I know theres a ton of variables that can impact it, just trying to understand 
it better.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  If the contactor provides the material the customer will always pay more for 
the overall job.  

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:55 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

  Yes

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:25 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

  thats excluding material? 


  On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    I have received as high as $23 and frequently get $16

    From: Mike Hammett 
    Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:03 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

    I've paid anywhere from $8.50 - $14. I'm looking to bring it in-house for 
our next larger project because of how high that is.




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    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    Midwest Internet Exchange

    The Brothers WISP






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    From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
    To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
    Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 11:52:46 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations


    whether it be crewed or contracted, where do you sit rule of thumb on 
footage expectations on average. I know conditions, soil types, all that have a 
factor to play, but where do you start to cringe on production? ducted fiber, 
direct bury, city and rural. 

    What you contracted comfort zone per foot on each? how low per foot before 
you get suspicious, (as in some guy coming in telling you he can put in for you 
at 10 cents a foot in downtown chicago)

    Im looking for numbers excluding the material since that can vary more than 
soil type

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