You just need to have at least one active CPI, correct? I was assuming it
doesn't need to be the same person that originally signed off on it. If you
had to re-register everything everytime a CPI was replaced, that would...
unpleasant.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 8:52 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Just recertify, you have to have someone on staff with it.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting.  I hadn’t thought about what happens when a certification
>> expires.  That will be a rude shock if it works that way.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:35 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>>
>>
>> If a cpi leaves and doesnt keep renewing then one day everybody
>> disconnects. 5 yeats comes quick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:42 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It kind of makes sense, because a CPI is really just supposed to be
>> verifying that the install was done correctly. If somebody goes and messes
>> with it later on, you can't really hold the CPI responsible for that, so
>> there theoretically shouldn't be any ongoing liability, as long as you did
>> the job right in the first place. There's less incentive for an employee to
>> make sure they did everything right, if they aren't personally responsible
>> for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> A CPI leaving the company shouldn't really have any impact on any
>> existing CBSD's... I would think the CPI could even be a contractor, but I
>> never actually took the CPI course, so I could be wrong...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:46 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I was hoping they had changed that dumb rule
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly.  They made a big point of the fact that you are personally
>> responsible for accuracy of the data you put in.  Not sure how a company
>> CPI would fit with that.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:35 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>>
>>
>> I mean I did and I'm horrible at tests.  I did the Google test at
>> Coursera.
>>
>>
>>
>> There simply can't and won't be a company CPI.  If you leave the company
>> then the company needs to recertify.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Were any of us really absorbing all that much when we did CPI? It was
>> new, half of it wasnt even finalized, the course was too long and dry for
>> the small volume of info.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> speaking of CPI, have they created a company CPI yet? ours is my name and
>> if I transition from employee to contractor Im curious how that impacts the
>> registered CBSDs
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's like 90% of the class for your CPI, I mean clearly you weren't
>> paying attention :P  The requirement is to report the height and position.
>> Every time.  Every CPE, every AP.
>>
>>
>>
>> If it's operating under your NN license, which is almost
>> certainly expired, you're operating illegally.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're operating under CBRS it requires you to report every CPE.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I believed
>> that what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had specific
>> height requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these
>> specifications.   Yes the product is Baicells.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too with a
>> similar assumption?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>>
>>
>> With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS mode (either
>> by not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the CBRS
>> capable version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I wouldn't
>> be surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which forces you
>> to play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is authorized by
>> the SAS.  Maybe Andy has a different product that works differently.
>>
>> ….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered.  Since Andy mentioned
>> eNB I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the vendor allows
>> you to pretend the UE are all mobile?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, you've got some
>> problems that need fixing...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if it’s not
>> registered with the SAS.  It literally won’t connect.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you may be stuck in another time period.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>>
>>
>> Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got an email out
>> of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that are
>> connected to my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he’s saying?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy Trimmell
>>
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>>
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>>
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