That’s fine, but what if I leave the company and let my certification expire?  
Does another employee have to re-enter the CPE into the SAS?

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

Just recertify, you have to have someone on staff with it.

 

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting.  I hadn’t thought about what happens when a certification expires. 
 That will be a rude shock if it works that way.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

If a cpi leaves and doesnt keep renewing then one day everybody disconnects. 5 
yeats comes quick

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:42 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It kind of makes sense, because a CPI is really just supposed to be verifying 
that the install was done correctly. If somebody goes and messes with it later 
on, you can't really hold the CPI responsible for that, so there theoretically 
shouldn't be any ongoing liability, as long as you did the job right in the 
first place. There's less incentive for an employee to make sure they did 
everything right, if they aren't personally responsible for it.

 

A CPI leaving the company shouldn't really have any impact on any existing 
CBSD's... I would think the CPI could even be a contractor, but I never 
actually took the CPI course, so I could be wrong...

 

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:46 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I was hoping they had changed that dumb rule

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Exactly.  They made a big point of the fact that you are personally responsible 
for accuracy of the data you put in.  Not sure how a company CPI would fit with 
that.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

I mean I did and I'm horrible at tests.  I did the Google test at Coursera.

 

There simply can't and won't be a company CPI.  If you leave the company then 
the company needs to recertify.

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Were any of us really absorbing all that much when we did CPI? It was new, half 
of it wasnt even finalized, the course was too long and dry for the small 
volume of info.

 

 

speaking of CPI, have they created a company CPI yet? ours is my name and if I 
transition from employee to contractor Im curious how that impacts the 
registered CBSDs

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

It's like 90% of the class for your CPI, I mean clearly you weren't paying 
attention :P  The requirement is to report the height and position.  Every 
time.  Every CPE, every AP.

 

If it's operating under your NN license, which is almost certainly expired, 
you're operating illegally.

 

If you're operating under CBRS it requires you to report every CPE.

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com 
<mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com> > wrote:

I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I believed that 
what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had specific height 
requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these specifications.  
 Yes the product is Baicells.  

 

Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too with a similar 
assumption?

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS mode (either by 
not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the CBRS capable 
version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I wouldn't be 
surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too.

 

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which forces you to 
play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is authorized by the SAS. 
 Maybe Andy has a different product that works differently.

….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS.

 

I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered.  Since Andy mentioned eNB 
I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the vendor allows you to 
pretend the UE are all mobile? 

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, you've got some 
problems that need fixing...

 

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if it’s not registered 
with the SAS.  It literally won’t connect.

 

I think you may be stuck in another time period.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got an email out of the 
blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that are connected to 
my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he’s saying?

 

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

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