Figuratively inside the lines.  




 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

...you mean outside the lines?

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules and 
they do want you to color inside the lines.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted fill 
in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides so the 
profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt oil in a 
sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix on it and 
compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed some of 
the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his machine.  
Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they just shut off the burner 
and pump and add more the next day.

 

An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job where he 
emptied his sprayer.  

 

Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down rock 
chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with the exact 
same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year before.  Same 
inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it and we cannot, is 
the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to get off his work site 
or I would be arrested.

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

but it's organic.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  wrote:

“kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete 
are environmentally friendly”

 

Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill

 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of 
governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile road, 
you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no single 
governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have road issues 
now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And if john at mile 
6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at mile 23 is gonna 
charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't 
believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly, so mile 36 is made 
of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at mile 52 is a dick and 
stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at mile 99 he doesn't like 
people so he put boulders across his mile.

These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's, they 
want their government based on their current whim. Most of their arguments 
break down after a little long term logic.

 

I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push too 
hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a fingerful of 
shit.

 

On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the 
(Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.

 

-Sean

 

 

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board.  I 
registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.  

…..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with and some 
others are absolutely insane.  

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify as 
libertarian, I don't do that anymore.

On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren Bobert 
elected lol :-/

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if you want a 
libertarian!

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

<Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park> 

 

Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need to go 
back to bed and get some rest.

 

-Sean

 

(For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally 
conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)

 

 

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone could use some 
more grit.

 

In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never affect 
positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the trying.  Becoming 
toxic themselves to those they are trying to shame/expose/coerce/educate/put 
down.  

 

What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he is 
being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to teach by 
example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my employee, I 
address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire them.  

 

Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a noble cause 
with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially impolitic ways, 
a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at antifa and proud 
boys.  

 

Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same reasons.  
The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying to advance.  

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. 

 

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All ex-military, 
all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse and suffered a 
variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are always broke, angry, 
and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they don’t fly off 
the handle about anything.

 

…..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to pass judgement.

 

On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels 
fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel like 
they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.  

 

That is how I would describe some of my kids.

 

The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.  

 

Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just to 
be able to still see some of my kids.  

Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime 
sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims 
just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in the 
woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.  

 

Odd times....

I loved my parents and grandparents.  

Never felt they had to earn it.  

Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.  

 

Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were 
separate all while the kids were growing.

But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same 
vernacular. 

 

Must have something to do with energy drinks I think. 

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