I do think you nailed it about the influence of these games.

On 5/24/22 9:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Jamie, you really think the problem lies solely with republicans?  If the democrats did the Australian solution everything would be better and all problems would go away? Republicans are spawn of satan and universally evil? Worst school massacre was 95 years ago.  A guy got upset with his property tax bill and a few other things, wired up the school house and blew them all up.  45 dead 58 injured.    There will always be anarchists and sociopaths. With or without Trump.   This guy was a staunch democrat.
https://www.mlive.com/news/2017/05/10_things_you_probably_didnt_k.html
The current bout of crisis is young people that grew up with a constant diet of first person shooter video games and a society that breeds the grit out of young people.  Let them fantasize about mass murder, practice it a virtual environment, never tell them no, never give them a beating. What would expect the outcome would be? Of course I have no knowledge of the backgrounds of the latest kids doing this stuff, so this is just my theorizing, but I don’t blame a political party for columbine kids.  I blame their parents first and foremost.  But what you gonna do if you kid truly is a sociopath/psychopath.  Ted Bundy had a mom too.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:24 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
Fuck our piece of shit governor,  Trumpabbott and all his gun loving supporters...
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky,  Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

    18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from
    the right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of
    sensible gun control.
    Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to
    be passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
    Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to
    do nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to
    keep gun nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support
    stricter gun control.
    Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing
    and shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your
    politicians and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a
    goddamn joke. These mass shootings only happen in America.
    I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion
    if your party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
    On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Figuratively inside the lines.

        Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
        *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

        ...you mean outside the lines?

        On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

            NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely
            have a lot of rules and they do want you to color inside
            the lines.

            *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
            McCown via AF
            *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
            *To:* af@af.afmug.com
            *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

            Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had
            to do compacted fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had
            to be milled down on both sides so the profile of the
            patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt
            oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to
            dumping hot mix on it and compacting. The guy running the
            sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed some of the gravel
            on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his
            machine. Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally
            they just shut off the burner and pump and add more the
            next day.

            An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat
            clean up job where he emptied his sprayer.

            Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That
            involves laying down rock chips and spraying the whole
            road and a portion of the shoulder with the exact same hot
            sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
            before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked
            why UDOT can do it and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt
            oil less hazardous. He told me to get off his work site or
            I would be arrested.

            *From:*Bill Prince

            *Sent:*Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM

            *To:*af@af.afmug.com

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

            but it's organic.

            bp

            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

                “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't
                believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly”

                Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil
                spill

                *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of
                *Steve Jones
                *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

                Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want
                the benefits of governance without the costs. In a
                libertarian society to have a 100 mile road, you would
                destroy your car every trip because there would be no
                single governing body to maintain it in a consistent
                manner. Sure we have road issues now, but every
                property line you cross would be a new road. And if
                john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and
                you know keith at mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar
                toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents)
                doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are
                environmentally friendly, so mile 36 is made of soy
                and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at mile
                52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road,
                then Greg up at mile 99 he doesn't like people so he
                put boulders across his mile.

                These fools are just kid brains who want no government
                of someone else's, they want their government based on
                their current whim. Most of their arguments break down
                after a little long term logic.

                I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass,
                it's best to not push too hard on a 2022 liberal,
                you'll just end up pushing through to a fingerful of shit.

                On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett
                <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                    Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the
                    Koch brothers and the (Ron/Rand) Paul family are
                    too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.

                    -Sean

                    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM
                    <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        I read the Libertarian part platform and
                        thought I could be on board.  I registered as
                        Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.

                        …..and then I met the other libertarians. Some
                        I can relate with and some others are
                        absolutely insane.

                        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
                        Of *Jason McKemie
                        *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        <af@af.afmug.com>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

                        Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I
                        used to partially identify as libertarian, I
                        don't do that anymore.

                        On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett
                        <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                            Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends
                            up getting people like Lauren Bobert
                            elected lol :-/

                            On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh
                            Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                                It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You
                                have to vote libertarian if you want a
                                libertarian!

                                On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean
                                Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                                    <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey
                                    from South Park>

                                    Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke”
                                    people are tried and cranky, y’all
                                    need to go back to bed and get
                                    some rest.

                                    -Sean

                                    (For the record I’m registered
                                    independent , socially liberal,
                                    fiscally conservative, I would
                                    vote libertarian if it wasn’t a
                                    throwaway vote)

                                    On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM
                                    Chuck McCown via AF
                                    <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                                        Well, maybe their thin skin
                                        needs some toughening up. 
                                        Everyone could use some more grit.

                                        In my experience, those that
                                        feel compelled to “call out”
                                        people never affect positive
                                        change.  And frequently they
                                        harm themselves in the trying.
                                        Becoming toxic themselves to
                                        those they are trying to
                                        shame/expose/coerce/educate/put
                                        down.

                                        What good does it do to tell
                                        some red necked construction
                                        worker that he is being
                                        racist?  I just avoid those
                                        with views I abhor.  And I try
                                        to teach by example. But I
                                        never call anyone out.  At
                                        work, if they are my employee,
                                        I address the concern in
                                        private.  If they don’t change
                                        I fire them.

                                        Social justice warriors are
                                        idiots in my opinion.  They
                                        invent a noble cause with
                                        which to enshroud themselves
                                        while acting out in socially
                                        impolitic ways, a good reason,
                                        in their mind, to be an
                                        anarchist. Look at antifa and
                                        proud boys.

                                        Exact same people, doing the
                                        exact same things, for the
                                        exact same reasons. The ONLY
                                        difference is some contrived
                                        battle line they are trying to
                                        advance.

                                        *From:*Cameron Crum

                                        *Sent:*Thursday, May 19, 2022
                                        7:42 AM

                                        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave
                                        Users Group

                                        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT
                                        mildly political

                                        You stirred the liberal
                                        hornets nest now, Chuck.

                                        On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51
                                        AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                                            Weirdly opposite here.  My
                                            brothers are vocally
                                            alt-right. All
                                            ex-military, all purport
                                            to be Christian. One is
                                            dead from substance abuse
                                            and suffered a variety of
                                            mental health issues.  The
                                            surviving two are always
                                            broke, angry, and unhappy.
                                            I feel like I have to
                                            tiptoe around them so they
                                            don’t fly off the handle
                                            about anything.

                                            …..and I’m not at all
                                            “woke”.  I just know it’s
                                            not for me to pass judgement.

                                            On the other hand, this is
                                            NY. Maybe they feel like
                                            they’re the rebels
                                            fighting the evil liberal
                                            death star. Maybe your
                                            kids in Utah feel like
                                            they’re the rebels
                                            fighting the evil
                                            Republican death star.

                                            *From:*AF
                                            <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                                            *On Behalf Of *Chuck
                                            McCown via AF
                                            *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18,
                                            2022 6:11 PM
                                            *To:* af@af.afmug.com
                                            *Cc:* Chuck McCown
                                            <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                                            *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT
                                            mildly political

                                            Woke, broke, in therapy
                                            and crazy unhappy.

                                            That is how I would
                                            describe some of my kids.

                                            The alt right unwoke ones
                                            seem to have money and
                                            happiness.

                                            Never expected I would not
                                            be able to speak my mind
                                            at family dinners just to
                                            be able to still see some
                                            of my kids.

                                            Feel like I was convicted
                                            in absentia, thrown in the
                                            hole for a lifetime
                                            sentence, but taken out of
                                            solitary confinement now
                                            and then at their whims
                                            just so they could claim
                                            to have compassion on me
                                            for a half hour walk in
                                            the woods. Maybe longer if
                                            I pay for dinner.

                                            Odd times....

                                            I loved my parents and
                                            grandparents.

                                            Never felt they had to
                                            earn it.

                                            Never would have thought
                                            of condemning them for the
                                            things they said.

                                            Funny, I have a sister
                                            that lives 1000 miles from
                                            me.  Our families were
                                            separate all while the
                                            kids were growing.

                                            But some of hers have done
                                            the same things to her. 
                                            Using the exact same
                                            vernacular.

                                            Must have something to do
                                            with energy drinks I think.

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