On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing
children or people with assault weapons...they
come here for a better life...
You don't live near the border...
You see things through a tunnel vision created
by xenophobic racist assholes...
I have been to Uvalde many times for work and
pleasure...as a grandfather of 16 school age
children this hit me very hard...
Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz,
fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro life my ass..
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
No country that enacted these controls
already had the volume of firearms we have
presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban
them and you have nothing but illegal
weapons. We have a porous border that
democrats fight very hard to ensure whole
people can get across. Ban guns and see how
that turns out. Disarm real people and every
city and town will be Compton USA. Stop the
hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be
less.
You folks are only upset because some white
kids may have been shot. You dont care that
more kids of color are killed annually in
here and there shootings. Get off the big
ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce
violence. Look at every other country in
the world and how much less gun violence
they have.
Making guns harder to buy reduces the
supply available to criminals. Every gun
a criminal has/had was at some point
sold legally. Requiring universal
background checks means no more private
sales without a background check. Gun
shows and private party sales don't
require checks today when they should.
If background checks are required for
any sale or gift of a firearm, this
means sellers will be liable if the
firearm they sold/gifted is used to
commit a crime if they didn't do a
background check. Hold people
accountable who put guns into the hands
of bad people. If a child uses a
parent's gun to commit a crime, charge
the parent for something serious. Send a
message that guns are serious and
dangerous in the wrong hands. People
will lock up their guns and be way more
careful about who they sell or gift them
to if they are liable for crimes
committed using their firearm.
Can't you see how these measures will
reduce the supply of legal guns going to
criminals and mentally unstable people?
Again, look at every other country that
has either gun bans or strict gun
control and their statistics clearly
show that they have less gun violence
per capita. If it works everywhere else,
it WILL work here.
Red flag laws and revokation of gun
ownership should be passed too so if
someone becomes mentally unstable and
starts posting about threats or violence
they want to cause, the sheriff should
be able to sieze their guns until they
have a psych eval and can prove they're
sane enough to get their guns back.
This is a stupid saying: the only way to
stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy
with a gun.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a
gun is to make sure they never have
access to a gun to begin with. There's
multiple reasons why arming more people
is a bad idea. There's too many cooks in
the kitchen then. Say you're in Texas at
church where many people carry. Someone
decides to start killing people in
church so 20 "good guys" with guns pull
out their pistol and have to decide who
the bad guy is... How many good guys end
up getting shot by other good guys? The
answer is quite a few. You don't always
know who the bad guy with a gun is if
all the good guys with guns draw at the
same time. You could be shot by other
good guys or cops on accident. Worse yet
would be shooting innocent bystanders
because there's a 20 person firefight
happening in church.
The solution goes back to people having
fewer guns and America getting rid of
their obsession with guns. Keep them for
hunting but don't make guns a
personality trait. The people who take
family Christmas card pictures all
holding guns is embarrassing as hell.
Like can't you just own guns and be
private about it instead of acting all
Macho and worshiping your weapons?!
FYI, I am a gun owner and have a permit
to carry. I do not carry but have the
ability to. I have several pistols and
some hunting rifles and shotguns. I have
no desire for an assault rifle and don't
see the need for others to want them
either. I think it should be much harder
to buy a gun and I support that.
The solution to gun violence is not to
hire more armed guards and police
officers to patrol schools and other
public places. All that does is cost
tons of money and doesn't prevent a bad
guy from shooting up a place. It may
only reduce the response time to take
out the shooter. Think 20 steps before
we get to the shooting. Preventing
access to guns is Step #1 in preventing
these mass shootings and requires no
extra money or armed guards.
Facts show these measures will work to
reduce gun violence. Opinions, thoughts
and prayers do nothing to stop gun
violence. Supporting the gun lobby does
not help. Allowing politicians to block
all gun control legislation does not
help. Over 90% of Americans support
universal background checks yet the
Republicans won't do a damn thing to
pass it.
I'll scream this until people hear it,
the Republicans are the obstructionist,
pro-death party. Their only platform is
to say no to democrats. They blocked
bills to reduce the cost on insulin,
help increase supply of baby formula,
help reduce gas prices, etc. They
actively try to hurt the American
people. They take away human rights.
They lie about science and allow their
supporters to die from covid by
spreading misinformation. They try to
scare their supports by putting the fear
of God into them with baseless claims of
replacement theory, war on God,
indoctrination...
The party has become a joke. No spine
and full of cowards who won't stand up
to hateful rhetoric. A coup attempt on
January 6 and the party still spreads
the big lie that trump won when he
clearly lost in the most secure election
in history. The party is becoming
worthless and the younger generation
won't tolerate all the BS.
Democrat is the progressive party that
cares about all people and as long as we
keep it moderate and speak up about what
we like and don't like, they are likely
to listen. Reach out to your politicians
and tell them what you want them to do
if you don't agree with their platform.
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime
Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Fuck our piece of shit governor,
Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
supporters...
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed
to be at an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky, Trumpabbott and Ted
Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin
Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
18 more children shot and
killed. Fuck thoughts and
prayers from the right. These
damn Republicans MUST agree to
some sort of sensible gun control.
Guns need to be hard to
purchase, not easy. Red flag
laws need to be passed.
Background checks for any and
all purchases, no exceptions.
Another shooting, more dead
children and the Republicans
want to do nothing. They'll
gladly keep letting Americans
die in order to keep gun nuts
happy. Something over 60% of
Americans support stricter gun
control.
Republicans continue to be the
pro-death party. How
embarrassing and shameful!! If
you vote republican, start
reaching out to your politicians
and ask them to fucking do
something!! This is a goddamn
joke. These mass shootings only
happen in America.
I support if you're conservative
but you must voice your opinion
if your party keeps messing up.
Tell them to take action!
On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Figuratively inside the lines.
Color Within the Lines -
Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022
1:56 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
...you mean outside the lines?
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47
PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
NYDOT can be pretty
accommodating, but they
definitely have a lot of
rules and they do want
you to color inside the
lines.
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown via AF
*Sent:* Monday, May 23,
2022 1:37 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT mildly political
Once we had to cut a
road with an excavator.
Then we had to do
compacted fill in lifts,
the asphalt on the top
had to be milled down on
both sides so the
profile of the patch
formed a T shape. We
used the hot sticky
apshalt oil in a sprayer
to spray down the T
patch prior to dumping
hot mix on it and
compacting. The guy
running the sprayer was
almost empty so he
sprayed some of the
gravel on the edges of
the road surface in the
gravel empty his
machine. Not sure why
he wanted to empty it as
normally they just shut
off the burner and pump
and add more the next day.
An inspector came out
and made us do defcon 1
full hazmat clean up job
where he emptied his
sprayer.
Then the next year they
chip sealed that road.
That involves laying
down rock chips and
spraying the whole road
and a portion of the
shoulder with the exact
same hot sticky asphalt
oil mix we got in
trouble for the year
before. Same inspector
was there. I got out
and asked why UDOT can
do it and we cannot, is
the UDOT hot asphalt oil
less hazardous. He told
me to get off his work
site or I would be arrested.
*From:*Bill Prince
*Sent:*Monday, May 23,
2022 9:56 AM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
but it's organic.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM,
dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
“kile (with an I not
a Y and woke
parents) doesn't
believe asphalt and
concrete are
environmentally
friendly”
Well an asphalt road
is kind of like a
really long oil spill
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
*On Behalf Of *Steve
Jones
*Sent:* Saturday,
May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm
Microwave Users
Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re:
[AFMUG] OT mildly
political
Most libertarians I
know are just
crybabies. They want
the benefits of
governance without
the costs. In a
libertarian society
to have a 100 mile
road, you would
destroy your car
every trip because
there would be no
single governing
body to maintain it
in a consistent
manner. Sure we have
road issues now, but
every property line
you cross would be a
new road. And if
john at mile 6 like
cobblestone, its
cobblestone, and you
know keith at mile
23 is gonna charge a
42 dollar toll, kile
(with an I not a Y
and woke parents)
doesn't believe
asphalt and concrete
are environmentally
friendly, so mile 36
is made of soy and
has long since been
eaten by animals,
paul at mile 52 is a
dick and stores all
his nails on his
road, then Greg up
at mile 99 he
doesn't like people
so he put boulders
across his mile.
These fools are just
kid brains who want
no government of
someone else's, they
want their
government based on
their current whim.
Most of their
arguments break down
after a little long
term logic.
I also forgot to
mention, just like
wiping your ass,
it's best to not
push too hard on a
2022 liberal, you'll
just end up pushing
through to a
fingerful of shit.
On Fri, May 20,
2022, 12:53 PM Sean
Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Yeah the
libertarian
platform I agree
with, the Koch
brothers and the
(Ron/Rand) Paul
family are too
far out there in
whackadoodle
land for me.
-Sean
On Fri, May 20,
2022 at 7:02 AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I read the
Libertarian
part
platform and
thought I
could be on
board. I
registered
as
Libertarian
and carried
the card in
my wallet.
…..and then
I met the
other
libertarians.
Some I can
relate with
and some
others are
absolutely
insane.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf
Of *Jason
McKemie
*Sent:*
Thursday,
May 19, 2022
6:47 PM
*To:*
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:*
Re: [AFMUG]
OT mildly
political
Yeah, the
nutjobs
ruined that
designation.
I used to
partially
identify as
libertarian,
I don't do
that anymore.
On Thursday,
May 19,
2022, Sean
Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:
Here in
ColoRADo
voting
libertarian
ends up
getting
people
like
Lauren
Bobert
elected
lol :-/
On Thu,
May 19,
2022 at
9:15 AM
Josh
Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
It's
not
a
throwaway
vote!!!!
You
have
to
vote
libertarian
if
you
want
a
libertarian!
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
11:06
AM
Sean
Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:
<Say
in
the
voice
of
Mr.
Mackey
from
South
Park>
Mmmkay
everyone,
all
you
“woke”
people
are
tried
and
cranky,
y’all
need
to
go
back
to
bed
and
get
some
rest.
-Sean
(For
the
record
I’m
registered
independent
,
socially
liberal,
fiscally
conservative,
I
would
vote
libertarian
if
it
wasn’t
a
throwaway
vote)
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
8:53
AM
Chuck
McCown
via
AF
<af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
Well,
maybe
their
thin
skin
needs
some
toughening
up.
Everyone
could
use
some
more
grit.
In
my
experience,
those
that
feel
compelled
to
“call
out”
people
never
affect
positive
change.
And
frequently
they
harm
themselves
in
the
trying.
Becoming
toxic
themselves
to
those
they
are
trying
to
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put
down.
What
good
does
it
do
to
tell
some
red
necked
construction
worker
that
he
is
being
racist?
I
just
avoid
those
with
views
I
abhor.
And
I
try
to
teach
by
example.
But
I
never
call
anyone
out.
At
work,
if
they
are
my
employee,
I
address
the
concern
in
private.
If
they
don’t
change
I
fire
them.
Social
justice
warriors
are
idiots
in
my
opinion.
They
invent
a
noble
cause
with
which
to
enshroud
themselves
while
acting
out
in
socially
impolitic
ways,
a
good
reason,
in
their
mind,
to
be
an
anarchist.
Look
at
antifa
and
proud
boys.
Exact
same
people,
doing
the
exact
same
things,
for
the
exact
same
reasons.
The
ONLY
difference
is
some
contrived
battle
line
they
are
trying
to
advance.
*From:*Cameron
Crum
*Sent:*Thursday,
May
19,
2022
7:42
AM
*To:*AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users
Group
*Subject:*Re:
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
You
stirred
the
liberal
hornets
nest
now,
Chuck.
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
7:51
AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Weirdly
opposite
here.
My
brothers
are
vocally
alt-right.
All
ex-military,
all
purport
to
be
Christian.
One
is
dead
from
substance
abuse
and
suffered
a
variety
of
mental
health
issues.
The
surviving
two
are
always
broke,
angry,
and
unhappy.
I
feel
like
I
have
to
tiptoe
around
them
so
they
don’t
fly
off
the
handle
about
anything.
…..and
I’m
not
at
all
“woke”.
I
just
know
it’s
not
for
me
to
pass
judgement.
On
the
other
hand,
this
is
NY.
Maybe
they
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
liberal
death
star.
Maybe
your
kids
in
Utah
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
Republican
death
star.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On
Behalf
Of
*Chuck
McCown
via
AF
*Sent:*
Wednesday,
May
18,
2022
6:11
PM
*To:*
af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:*
Chuck
McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:*
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
Woke,
broke,
in
therapy
and
crazy
unhappy.
That
is
how
I
would
describe
some
of
my
kids.
The
alt
right
unwoke
ones
seem
to
have
money
and
happiness.
Never
expected
I
would
not
be
able
to
speak
my
mind
at
family
dinners
just
to
be
able
to
still
see
some
of
my
kids.
Feel
like
I
was
convicted
in
absentia,
thrown
in
the
hole
for
a
lifetime
sentence,
but
taken
out
of
solitary
confinement
now
and
then
at
their
whims
just
so
they
could
claim
to
have
compassion
on
me
for
a
half
hour
walk
in
the
woods.
Maybe
longer
if
I
pay
for
dinner.
Odd
times....
I
loved
my
parents
and
grandparents.
Never
felt
they
had
to
earn
it.
Never
would
have
thought
of
condemning
them
for
the
things
they
said.
Funny,
I
have
a
sister
that
lives
1000
miles
from
me.
Our
families
were
separate
all
while
the
kids
were
growing.
But
some
of
hers
have
done
the
same
things
to
her.
Using
the
exact
same
vernacular.
Must
have
something
to
do
with
energy
drinks
I
think.
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