I vaguely remember back in the 90s when there was a TV show called hannity and 
combs..... It actually put a liberal and a conservative on the same debate 
show.   I never watched it I just knew it existed.....

We need something like that again.   People need to hear both sides.....

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From: "Zach Underwood" <zunder1...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
Date: Thu, May 19, 2022 10:07 AM

Calling out people does work but only if you have established relationships and 
it is a relationship that both wish to keep going. It can help humanize the 
problem and help the other person see the harm.

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:54 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:




Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone could 
use some more grit.

 

In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never 
affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the 
trying.  Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to 
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.  

 

What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he is 
being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to 
teach by example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are 
my employee, I address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire 
them.  

 

Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a noble 
cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially impolitic 
ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at 
antifa and proud boys.  

 

Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same 
reasons.  The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying 
to advance.  



 


From: Cameron 
Crum 

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political


 


You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. 
 

 


On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:




Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally 
alt-right.  All ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is 
dead from substance abuse and suffered a variety of mental health 
issues.  The surviving two are always broke, angry, and unhappy.  I 
feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they don’t fly off the handle about 
anything.
 
…..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not 
for me to pass judgement.
 
On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like 
they’re the rebels fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids 
in Utah feel like they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death 
star.
 
 
 


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly 
political

 



Woke, broke, in 
therapy and crazy unhappy.  


 


That is how I 
would describe some of my kids.


 


The alt right 
unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.  



 


Never expected 
I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just to be able to 
still see some of my kids.  


Feel like I was 
convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime sentence, but taken 
out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims just so they could 
claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in the woods.  Maybe 
longer if I pay for dinner.  


 


Odd 
times....


I loved my 
parents and grandparents.  


Never felt they 
had to earn it.  


Never would 
have thought of condemning them for the things they said.  



 


Funny, I have a 
sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were separate all 
while the kids were growing.


But some of 
hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same vernacular. 



 


Must have 
something to do with energy drinks I think. 



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