We could use a lot more boring and respectful.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 5:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT post LENT So, in other words boring and respectful? From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 3:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political David Brooks is merely a conservative; not an ultra wright-wing-nut. And Jonathan Capehart is merely a liberal; not an ultra left-wing-nut. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 5/29/2022 1:31 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: PBS NewsHour, Fridays, Brooks and Capehart. On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: I vaguely remember back in the 90s when there was a TV show called hannity and combs..... It actually put a liberal and a conservative on the same debate show. I never watched it I just knew it existed..... We need something like that again. People need to hear both sides..... ----- Reply message ----- From: "Zach Underwood" <zunder1...@gmail.com <mailto:zunder1...@gmail.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political Date: Thu, May 19, 2022 10:07 AM Calling out people does work but only if you have established relationships and it is a relationship that both wish to keep going. It can help humanize the problem and help the other person see the harm. On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:54 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone could use some more grit. In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves in the trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down. What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor. And I try to teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if they are my employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I fire them. Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a noble cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist. Look at antifa and proud boys. Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying to advance. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they don’t fly off the handle about anything. …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to pass judgement. On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in Utah feel like they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy. That is how I would describe some of my kids. The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness. Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just to be able to still see some of my kids. Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner. Odd times.... I loved my parents and grandparents. Never felt they had to earn it. Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said. Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our families were separate all while the kids were growing. But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the exact same vernacular. 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