If you follow the instructions on https://kb.easydns.com/knowledge/easymail-spf-and-dkim-records/ you should be able to get this resolved.
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 2:50 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote: > So, since grnacres doesn't have dkim or dmarc records, they should be > getting bounced like the mail.com records too. I don't have any control > over the mail servers. I rent the service "easymail" along with the domain > name from easydns. You know, it sounds to me more like google is a > terrorist organization stamping on the competition just because they can > get away with it. They make shit up, and terrorize those whom they want to > force into compliance with their made-up bullshit. Next they're going to > be asking for money > > Where is the anti-trust people when you need them? > On 3/10/23 10:55, Steve Jones wrote: > > grnacres.net doesnt have dkim nor a dmarc record. Thats bad domain > deliverability practice, nothing to do with the mailhost perse, but if > mail.com doesnt support dkim, its a trash mail host like sherweb. Cant > blame recipient mail servers when the root issue is the sending server isnt > current. Its like getting pissed that somebody doesnt get communications > you sent out by telegraph > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:49 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b0d9:b0:8af:3519:ea1 with SMTP id >> bk25-20020a170906b0d900b008af35190ea1mr29983208ejb.57.1678462982507; >> Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:43:02 -0800 (PST) >> ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1678462982; cv=none; >> d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; >> b=bJKHFyjF+9UzBXciF4y3cYBJwrgmwap9OQ3AsQpf2nOFXGkTbLP4C0qHnlLFHXPcA5 >> TAdqmLZYourjPpwIUaAuOjrJO9npBlDZRwv5N/S7xI4iPV2aly79cft4VRXOcfmk7CA0 >> n0mVQfby5GZR1DD+W1UzAdSHRUH51Nn/V7ounZGXel07tvWfVO8Oso9xga3lPfnUACNp >> TcgZPJSw+qZN7TBryDh9Wu1NFoyTBlKOGbgmQ/kCB0sSolGD+JqNOny+m40Pwdqh40ZD >> jfEM9U9v6Wc6ORTM1FaDpf5Lp9kw8+8gZwnpXwXqFX4mb8gxYt+hZCPJm+kDipw/lDr3 >> bhLA== >> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; >> s=arc-20160816; >> h=content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:content-language:to >> :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id; >> bh=IehNk68dy6Xm43VADrOc3Wts/VQhOY9VIh8QjaijTk8=; >> b=NyqdCYZBzsrNlw9g7CPu4CfeQy64PQOMwX8TEIFWlUxO7XScd6qJ5xAmPDrypL8w2e >> /h4c7ONmrtQsk65hcKCBSJxq4sztWtnPNbv9HZ2VBdC6R/JGcUovOQ5syUTVRAaGoGyg >> 6quG7biEF/Sud2xX/FBh1gMx50IFKJnscAlxCqvWnWzI5C01HgPhIT9hVh3Plz2YjWHQ >> hgdmHROdvAdaX6uEl3nz7l4ojOhValcTQDuIakI9ydlRN2QZT12hL1OWX71MpeoGvVMA >> jmEKbqXHlTu8rWPYvmL0M3Nx0V+oWCnCINPPYL1Pxu0Ob575PZS4DBo1hQE7tozljWxT >> avNg== >> ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; >> spf=pass (google.com: domain of j.vank...@grnacres.net designates >> 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=j.vank...@grnacres.net >> Return-Path: <j.vank...@grnacres.net> >> Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca. [64.68.200.34]) >> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id >> p5-20020a1709066a8500b008d490a104b2si49101ejr.523.2023.03.10.07.43.02 >> for <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); >> Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:43:02 -0800 (PST) >> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of j.vank...@grnacres.net designates >> 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.68.200.34; >> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >> spf=pass (google.com: domain of j.vank...@grnacres.net designates >> 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=j.vank...@grnacres.net >> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca >> (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738E268D1A for <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>; Fri, 10 >> Mar 2023 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) >> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo09-pco.easydns.vpn >> Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost >> (emo09-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id >> csxoJG_y5IgL for <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 15:43:01 >> +0000 (UTC) >> Received: from [192.168.2.100] (047-224-130-187.res.spectrum.com >> [47.224.130.187]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 >> bits) >> key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest >> SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) >> with ESMTPSA id 03E3A68C4C for <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 >> 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) >> Message-ID: <7b07154d-8e71-69fc-f76a-bcfb5ec52...@grnacres.net> >> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:42:59 -0800 >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 >> Thunderbird/102.8.0 >> To: thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >> Content-Language: en-US >> From: Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> >> Subject: hellody >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> nope, this gmail account is standard free account. >>> Im probably special cause all my communications get routed through the >>> FBI servers for my online antics >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:33 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> it was a test. Only the ones addressed to you went through. The >>>> others tested, bounced. Your address is different somehow. You mentioned >>>> your gmail is a paid-for account, the others that bounced were the >>>> free-gmail type accounts one gets by logging into google. The emails were >>>> sent from mail.com and from my own business accounts. The business >>>> ones went through and the mail.com ones bounced except for the one >>>> sent to you. I picked 4 gmail addresses and sent them out, all of the >>>> ones sent from the mail.com got bounced except yours. What makes you >>>> so special? >>>> On 3/10/23 09:14, Steve Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> i got your spam emails this morning >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All mail.com users cannot send you email. How many other's are >>>>> blocked as well? Oblivion, must be sweet. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since 2012. >>>>> Virtually no issues at all aside from a handful of short outages over the >>>>> last 11 years. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed to contact >>>>> them for support. We also use Google drive and their version of office >>>>> apps >>>>> in the cloud. We don't store any files locally at all. All business docs >>>>> are at Google and they're safe there and they handle the backups. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server. >>>>> It's not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking at >>>>> net profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own >>>>> email server would cost me more than what I pay Google. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for gsuite and I >>>>> pay to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a >>>>> year >>>>> to Google for everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is relating to our internal business use. For customer email, we >>>>> never offered it and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail account and >>>>> go >>>>> live your best life not having to support email. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just >>>>> dealt with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because >>>>> the Edsel was before my time :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves >>>>> for employees and other business email addresses. It is free that way and >>>>> we don’t have to worry about anything else. But for some reason the >>>>> server >>>>> hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so >>>>> we stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped >>>>> being able to send emails due to something gmail did. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you >>>>> this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office >>>>> emails since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the >>>>> mail. The cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have dropped >>>>> service >>>>> but wanted to keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover >>>>> any >>>>> administrative stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look >>>>> at it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems >>>>> than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers >>>>> would have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered >>>>> inverter just so i can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its >>>>> not that complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources >>>>> unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is only for our own company email. No customers on it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Tyson Burris >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed to be a good product. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Tyson Burris, President* >>>>> *Internet Communications Inc.* >>>>> *739 Commerce Dr.* >>>>> *Franklin, IN 46131* >>>>> >>>>> *Office #* *317-738-0320 * >>>>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 * >>>>> *Online: www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: ICI] >>>>> >>>>> *What can ICI do for you?* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP >>>>> Cameras - Fiber - Towers - Infrastructure.* >>>>> >>>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* >>>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is* >>>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* >>>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* >>>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* >>>>> *prohibited.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via >>>>> AF >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free >>>>> though. Extremely granular configuration options. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had >>>>> thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost >>>>> effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF >>>>> <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are having trouble with mailcow. Anything better out there. It >>>>> hangs all the time these days. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication, including any >>>>> attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) to this >>>>> email >>>>> and is confidential. 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