i got your spam emails this morning
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
Of *Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
All mail.com <http://mail.com> users cannot
send you email. How many other's are blocked as
well? Oblivion, must be sweet.
On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:
Gmail is the best. Been using them for our
business since 2012. Virtually no issues at
all aside from a handful of short outages
over the last 11 years.
It's hands off, costs very little, and I've
NEVER needed to contact them for support. We
also use Google drive and their version of
office apps in the cloud. We don't store any
files locally at all. All business docs are
at Google and they're safe there and they
handle the backups.
I don't see any advantage to hosting local
email on your own server. It's not worth
your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly
when looking at net profit so spending even
one hour a year trying to manage or fix my
own email server would cost me more than
what I pay Google.
We're grandfathered in and think we get 10
free users for gsuite and I pay to upgrade
storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less
than $60 a year to Google for everything.
Dirt cheap and great peace mind.
This is relating to our internal business
use. For customer email, we never offered it
and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail
account and go live your best life not
having to support email.
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and
such really well, we just dealt with it
a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan
to a flatbed because the Edsel was
before my time :-)
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck
McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I prefer to have it in house for the
10-20 email addresses it serves for
employees and other business email
addresses. It is free that way and
we don’t have to worry about
anything else. But for some reason
the server hangs and needs to get
rebooted, usually about the same
time each day.
Google got difficult, especially for
email chains and other things so we
stopped using them some time ago.
For example, our scanner stopped
being able to send emails due to
something gmail did.
*From:*Steve Jones
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
How much is your time worth. The
free internal server is costing you
this. We are still using rackspace
for subscriber mail and our office
emails since its same domain and a
pita to set up split routing for the
mail. The cost of our mail is
covered by the folks who have
dropped service but wanted to keep
their email, we actually make a tidy
profit to cover any administrative
stuff.
for my business I use google. 6
bucks a month per user. The way I
look at it is if im not making 6
bucks per guy a month I have bigger
problems than my email. Im a nerd,
20 years ago dicking around with
email servers would have been a
blast. but now its like maintaining
a battery powered inverter just so i
can still use my corded drill. I
can, it will work, its not that
complicated, but its nonetheless a
dumb waste of time.
dealing with hosting email servers
is a total waste of any resources
unless your monetizing it. too large
an attack vector
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM
Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
It is only for our own company
email. No customers on it.
*From:*Tyson Burris
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023
7:37 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
Surgemail is exactly what I
used. Seemed to be a good product.
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*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via AF
*Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023
8:37 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Cc:* Steven Kenney
<st...@wavedirect.org>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
Surgemail you could run 1000
customers on a raspberry pi! Not
free though. Extremely granular
configuration options.
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM
Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
We used Icewarp since 2004
without issues. At its peak
we had thousandth of
accounts on it, but now just
a handful.
Not free. And they went to
per user licensing so it’s
not cost effective for
hosting anymore, but it’s
reasonable for internal email.
Get Outlook for iOS
<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on
behalf of Chuck McCown via
AF <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 8,
2023 6:05:45 PM
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<af@af.afmug.com>
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
We are having trouble with
mailcow. Anything better out
there. It hangs all the
time these days.
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