We have a Juniper MX10008 which is supposed to crunch a full table in about
30 seconds, but that's a half million dollar router.

If you're doing it on a general purpose CPU I think 10-15 minutes doesn't
sound weird.

Something I've been meaning to try in the lab was having a static default
route with distance 255.  The hope would be traffic falls back to that when
we haven't received a better route yet.  Maybe I'd have two or three of
those default routes with a qualified-next-hop so they're only active if the
upstream connection is up.  I'd adjust Juniper's protocol preference level
so it'll prefer a BGP route if one exists and otherwise use the static
default route.  The hope would be while I'm waiting 30 seconds to receive
routes that traffic still moves anyway.  I haven't actually tried this
experiment yet, but I think in principal it should work.  There might be a
Mikrotik equivalent way.

-Adam



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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

Dennis,

Using mikrotik routers.

Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

One CCR1072 v6.47.9

Yes taking full tables.  

Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.
Never established a session.

Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before I
go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new CCR2116-12G-4S+
running v7.  


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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB> 1.What router are you using?
DB> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is
kinda long..   


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DB> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
DB> Technologies
DB> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
DB> To: af@af.afmug.com
DB> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

DB> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different
providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

DB> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet
while this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up
the process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will
new faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and
hold is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

DB> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best
conditions?  

DB> Thanks,
DB>  Mark                          mailto:m...@mailmt.com

DB> Myakka Communications
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