Josh,

Not yet.  Just got it in yesterday.  working on getting it programmed. 
 
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Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 11:57:42 AM, you wrote:

> Is it in place?

> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:32 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> 
> wrote:

>> Josh,

>> typo - 2116
>>  
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>> Myakka Communications
>> www.Myakka.com

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>> Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 9:07:35 AM, you wrote:

>>> 2016 being the 2116?  Or the 2216?

>>> Sounds like you didn't install it?  Swap it in there and see if it fixes 
>>> your issue.

>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 6:10 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>> <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

>>>> I have the new 2016 in and programmed up.  But I'm still dealing with more 
>>>> immediate issues.
>>>>  
>>>> We are taking a mix of full or partial routes from our providers.  The 
>>>> issue seems to be when one line gets cut, it takes a bit for our old 
>>>> routers to recalculate the tables.  
>>>>  
>>>> Should  I just take default routes?  That way there is a lot less math 
>>>> needed when a line goes down.  I'm assuming inbound BGP will still be 
>>>> optimized for shorted path.  How will that work for the two IX's we 
>>>> connect to? Are they smart enough to calculate best path even if the 
>>>> traffic comes from outside the IX. 

>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>> www.Myakka.com

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>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 11:37:35 AM, you wrote:

>>>>> We did not have to do that. But we did set some values the same/similar 
>>>>> in the OSPF interfaces.
>>>>> Maybe it’s a matter of implementation, but we do not use broadcast on 
>>>>> interfaces and we do not use md5.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:21 AM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>>>  
>>>>> we had to change our ospf from simple to md5 and from point to point to 
>>>>> broadcast to get it to play ball between v7 and v6
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>> <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules 
>>>>>> just fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue. 
>>>>>>  The big thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the 
>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:52:37 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>>> <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is 
>>>>>>>> time to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see 
>>>>>>>> what happens.  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip 
>>>>>>>>> route print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 
>>>>>>>>> minutes for the traffic to actually change directions.
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP




>>>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>>>>>>> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's 
>>>>>>>>> been a while.

>>>>>>>>> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think 
>>>>>>>>> it's 10-15 though.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>>>>> <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dennis,

>>>>>>>>>> Using mikrotik routers.

>>>>>>>>>> Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

>>>>>>>>>> One CCR1072 v6.47.9

>>>>>>>>>> Yes taking full tables.  

>>>>>>>>>> Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting 
>>>>>>>>>> it.  Never established a session.

>>>>>>>>>> Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But 
>>>>>>>>>> before I go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new 
>>>>>>>>>> CCR2116-12G-4S+ running v7.  


>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>>>>>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>>>>>> www.Myakka.com

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>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB>>>>>>>>>>> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB>>>>>>>>>>> 1.What router are you using?
DB>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB>>>>>>>>>>> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold 
time is kinda long..   


DB>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
DB>>>>>>>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium 
ePMP Certified 
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net 
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DB>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
DB>>>>>>>>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
Technologies
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
DB>>>>>>>>>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
DB>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

DB>>>>>>>>>>> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 
different providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's 
magic and traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

DB>>>>>>>>>>> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable 
Internet while this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to 
speed up the process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes? 
 Will new faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s 
and hold is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

DB>>>>>>>>>>> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions?  

DB>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
DB>>>>>>>>>>>  Mark                          mailto:m...@mailmt.com

DB>>>>>>>>>>> Myakka Communications
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