The more important detail is that we are regulated as carriers.  That is 
helpful to point out for ROW and easement occupancy.  



From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 10:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CALEA and WiFi

The FCC's First Report and Order, issued in September 2005, ruled that 
providers of broadband Internet access and interconnected VoIP services are 
regulable as “telecommunications carriers” under CALEA. That order was affirmed 
and further clarified by the Second Report and Order, dated May 2006. On May 5, 
2006, a group of higher education and library organizations led by the American 
Council on Education (ACE) challenged that ruling, arguing that CALEA did not 
apply to them. On June 9, 2006, the D.C. Circuit Court summarily denied the 
petition without addressing the constitutionality.[11]




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 11:43:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CALEA and WiFi


I was under the impression that CALEA was for telephone call intercepts?

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 4:29 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] CALEA and WiFi

CALEA hasn’t been on my radar much, so this is probably an old topic, but it’s 
one I don’t know much about.



If you provide WiFi in a public space how do you handle compliance?  We have 
parks, airports, and other public spaces with managed WiFi.  There are also 
MDU’s with WiFi in a public area like a courtyard, lounge, lobby, etc.



My understanding is you have to be able to capture traffic if you’re ordered to 
do so.  Do you also have to be able to identify the individual?  



If they ever asked me to capture all traffic from the park WiFi….sure no 
problem.  If they gave me a particular IP, port, and time, and they wanted me 
to start capturing traffic AND identify who it was, then I would only be able 
to tell them it was someone at the park.  At best I could give them a MAC 
address and hostname.  If I have to identify the customer that’s easy: the 
municipal parks department, but I’m guessing that’s not what they will want to 
know.



Will this stuff get us in trouble?



-Adam




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