I keep seeing statements that firmware updates will be allowed until 2027. Are they seriously suggesting they would ban firmware updates to old routers? How does that help security? Are they thinking some nation state could send out malicious firmware updates? It strikes me as just the opposite of what you want.
They keep citing Salt Typhoon as justification. If I look up Salt Typhoon in Wikipedia, I see this: “In late 2024 U.S. officials announced that hackers affiliated with Salt Typhoon had accessed the computer systems of nine U.S. telecommunications companies, later acknowledged to include Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Spectrum, Lumen, Consolidated Communications, and Windstream. The attack targeted U.S. broadband networks, particularly core network components, including routers manufactured by Cisco, which route large portions of the Internet. In October 2024, U.S. officials revealed that the group had compromised internet service provider (ISP) systems used to fulfill CALEA requests used by U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies to conduct court-authorized wiretapping.” So telephone company infrastructure not residential, Cisco routers, and if I remember right they hacked into the infrastructure required by the US govt for court ordered wiretaps. Other examples they cite as justifying this order involve end-of-support routers no longer getting firmware updates. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2026 4:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Router Ban This isnt really a big deal. every existing certified device can still be manufactured and sold. TP-Link is already building US manufacturing. They will dominate for a while on the consumer market. The waivers will be applied to companies that arent actually chinese. they skirted rules by manufacturing in partner nations, now thats banned and will force silicon changes to non chinese On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:03 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Legally? Michigan. https://www.calix.com/press-release/2024/07/calix-announces-bead-compliant-broadband-platform.html#:~:text=The%20vast%20portfolio%20of%20Calix,broadband%20experiences%20for%20their%20communities. Reality? Just like everything else...Taiwan/Vietnam. IDK where you're getting memory if not for one of the big three. On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:49 PM David Hannum via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Josh, you're a Calix shop. Where are Calix routers made? On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:37 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: It's blacklisted by default. Then there are exemptions that whitelist. On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 2:46 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: You can apply for an exemption. (wink, wink) The determination included an exemption for routers that the Department of War (DoW) or the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have granted “Conditional Approval” after finding that such device or devices do not pose such unacceptable risks. Producers of consumer-grade routers are encouraged to submit an application for Conditional Approval using the guidance attached to the determination. Applications should be submitted to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 1:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Router Ban I haven't read the full order, but this looks to include a significant number of manufactures (including Mikrotik). I can't think of any consumer routers that are manufactured domestically. Am I missing something? -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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