I was just being factious, but you ran with it. 

Actually, if Version 7 will install on it (whenever that comes out), a full 
feed will take 36 megs of RAM and 12 million routes will take about 500 megs of 
RAM. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill Prince via Af" <af@afmug.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 

Maximum of 512 MB of memory on the RB230. I don't think that's enough 
to handle full BGP roues these days. 

bp 

On 9/18/2014 6:13 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: 
> I found an RB230 (I think that is the number) on a tower. Can that handle 
> MPLS\VPLS with full BGP routes? ;-) 
> 
> Better pricing? They have to what, cut it in half to be competitive? GigE 
> radios are something like $7k/link now. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Shayne Lebrun via Af" <af@afmug.com> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:09:37 AM 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 
> 
> (gosh, I hope I'm allowed to say all this, but what the hell, they didn't 
> say 'and don't repeat nothing!' and it's not like other road-show goers 
> can't ask themselves) 
> 
> Oh, I'm sure it'll be user-definable, on the 450, in terms of how to sync. 
> 
> The thing is, with the ePMP, you have exactly three options; something like 
> 75/25, 50/50, and 30/70. Those are all you get for sync options; the 
> downlink percent. They were very clear that 'max range' is NOT a timing 
> parameter. 
> 
> So, making your 450s sync with your ePMP is going to have some tradeoffs, 
> and that's to be expected. 
> 
> As to the 100/430s, it was pretty unambiguous that those would never sync 
> with the ePMP. Or have their MTUs increased. Or all sorts of other stuff. 
> The idea they seem to be moving to, and this is my conclusion rather than a 
> direct statement, is that the 100 series gets flat-out replaced with ePMP, 
> you put 450 where you have needs that the 450 meets (no guard bands, smaller 
> latency, etc etc) and that the 430 is a red-headed stepchild. Don't ask 
> what the 320 is in that analogy. 
> 
> Also, there's a new licensed PTP radio to be announced in a month or so, 
> which, supposedly, a better pricing structure. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka....@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
> George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:00 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 
> 
> I was told there will be various options coming soon to make all of this 
> stuff sync. There will be advantages and disadvantages to each way of doing 
> things, but at least it will work. As far as the aging PMP/PTP100, I assume 
> it will do 5ms framing because that's what 900 does today, so it is possible 
> on the platform, obviously with a latency hit, but what can you do. 
> 
> On 9/17/2014 4:23 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: 
>> This would be a VERY bad thing for people with PMP450 networks.. 
>> Increasing the frame duration to match the ePMP will double the 
>> latency of the 450 platform. 
>> 
>> Peter Kranz 
>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd....@afmug.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Shayne Lebrun via Af 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM 
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 
>> 
>> 450 is being made to sync with ePMP, by increasing frame duration to 
> match. 
>> 100/430/320 will likely see no new changes. This is what I got from 
>> an ePMP roadshow. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 PM 
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 
>> 
>> I am guessing if anything, you will see Canopy (or at least 450) sync 
>> with ePMP/320. Seems like it would be easier to make the FPGA based 
>> radio use a longer frame than to make the Atheros based radio use a 
>> shorter frame. I'm sure they already tried that. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Bill Prince via Af 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:03 PM 
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 
>> 
>> George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white 
>> on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. 
>> 
>> 
>> bp 
>> 
>> On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: 
>>> Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP 
>>> sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded 
>>> with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and 
>>> doing its 
>> thing. 
>>> Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain 
>>> to weather seal. 
>>> 
>>> When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP 
>>> latency down, then I'll buy some. 
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: 
>>>> We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. 
>>>> Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn 
>>>> N-type connections. 
>>>> It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All 
>>>> the specs say H&V. 
>> 
> 
> 


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