Forrest,

If the device was really really nice, had everything I talked about and
maybe even wifi AP I would buy a few @ $500, $250 is more where I think it
would be plausible. We would buy maybe 5 @ 250, obviously not a high volume
thing. Updates, free would be nice but I wouldn't mind spending $50 each
update for much enhanced functionality...

Yes we are clipping the tab now.


On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

> Exalt ExtremeAir Radios draw 135watt average over PoE. Telrad Radios we
> use draw up to 150watt but usually around 120ish.
>
>
>
> Matthew Jenkins
> SmarterBroadband
> m...@sbbinc.net
> 530.272.4000
>
> On 10/05/2014 04:55 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:
>
>> What radio needs 150w?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:
>> af@afmug.com>>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:
>> af@afmug.com>>
>> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:
>> af@afmug.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas
>>
>> This is actually in the category of what I'm expending a fair bit of R&D
>> on right now.
>>
>> The challenge comes cost.   150watt per port is very expensive to do when
>> factoring in the DC-DC conversion.   20W is  easy.  50W is a bit harder.
>> 150W gets very expensive quickly.
>>
>> As a result, I'm thinking somewhat modular, i.e. pick/choose.
>>
>> I also have to be mindful of the competitors in the space, in that I want
>> to be different in the right ways.   The power injection/switching space is
>> quite crowded.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Our infrastructure sites look like this:
>>
>>     Shielded Cables -> 8 or 24port shielded patch panel
>>     -> APC PRM24 with WB Surge Modules
>>     -> PoE Injectors
>>     -> Switch / Router
>>
>>     PoE Injectors are attached to a Masterswitch.
>>
>>
>>     <pipe dream>
>>     I know this probably is not feasible but....
>>     What I would REALLY like is an active PoE midspan injector (8/24
>>     gigabit port). Something that does not require a site monitor (has
>>     web/snmp function built in). It takes AC power and can output DC
>>     to each type of device. This device would be software configurable
>>     for power type and has apc masterswitch functionality. It would
>>     need to support up to 150watt per port for WiMAX and Licensed Link
>>     Radios. It would need to support from 12vdc to 56vdc output. If
>>     there was a model that also supported power out to a few (4) AC
>>     outlets I wouldn't even need an APC Masterswitch. The goal is to
>>     replace all those PoE injectors which don't mount in a rack or on
>>     a din rail in a box.
>>     </pipe dream>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Matthew Jenkins
>>     SmarterBroadband
>>     m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
>>     530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 10/05/2014 01:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:
>>
>>         It's been (quite) a while since I sent one of these messages
>>         out to the list.
>>
>>         With the release of all of our new gigabit injectors, it is
>>         time for me to decide which products will be next out the door
>>         at PacketFlux.
>>
>>         We've got several products at various stages of completion,
>>         but almost all of them I expect to be very low volume projects
>>         - the type of products we complete just because they help fill
>>         out our product offering instead of expecting a lot of revenue
>>         from them.   A couple of these have appeared on the website
>>         recently - I.E. a 2 Relay, 3 Switch module, and the
>>         voltmeter/shunt input modules.
>>
>>         So, what I'd love to hear is some suggestions for products
>>         PacketFlux could build which would help you in your WISP. I'm
>>         particularly looking for products which if they existed would
>>         go at every one of your tower sites, or even better at every
>>         customer location.  I know these product ideas exist out
>>         there, and I'd love to hear them.   Feel free to throw ideas
>>         out which are outside of the narrow niche that you think of
>>         PacketFlux fitting into.
>>
>>         One final note  - there is always a query for an all-in-one
>>         tower device which includes some mixture of ac power supply,
>>         dc-dc conversion, battery charging/management, Ethernet
>>         switch, router, power injection, fiber conversion, etc.. I've
>>         heard those loud and clear and am aware of that desire.
>>         There's work being done in-house toward something like that,
>>         but there are many hurdles left to make it a reality. If
>>         there's a simplified version of this which would fit a
>>         specific, widespread, need I'd love to hear about it, but the
>>         idea of a device you put into your rack and it handles
>>         everything needed at a tower site is still quite a ways off
>>         for us.
>>
>>         So, throw your best ideas out there... I'd love to take a
>>         couple and run with them.
>>
>>         -forrest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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