We have now been able to trace to the heart of the problem, though 
unfortunately still attempting to determine the cause. To give you a rough 
background, we have a main link that “bonds” 2 Dragonwaves together to form one 
unit (using the dual radio mount). The DW manual states for this to work when 
doubling the throughput, it is required to use LACP trunking. We have this in 
place and it has been working fine up until recently. The trunk is still active 
(no network loop) however one radio is working more than the other, eventually 
saturating one of the two links and causing the latency. The second set of 
radios aren’t performing in terms of actual traffic (signal is ok) but at most 
they’ve moved 200Mb/s even though they are licensed for 400Mbs.

The link with the LACP has more or less load-balanced itself in the past, 
however they are now performing very asymmetrical at this point with over a 
200Mb/s difference. I understand that LACP does not actively load balance but 
that’s what has been observed in the past. I suspect the issue is being caused 
by one of the switches doing the trunking (we just discovered it is 
unmanageable but still operating, again no network loop). It’s either that or 
the one leg of the link itself with the low bandwidth usage is not working 
properly despite indications otherwise.

We’ll investigate our theories but always looking for additional input ☺

-Tim

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

You can do a bit more with metro-e style NIDS... those have the layer2 tools to 
do proper testing.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 10/23/2014 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
it's going to be really hard to do any meaningful diagnostics with a layer 2 
switch on each end, not routers...  you could be seeing a broadcast flood of 
some type.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Timothy D. McNabb via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Unfortunately there is no QoS and flow control is off on the switches ☹

Dragonwave was contacted as well. No determination yet though.

-Tim

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Peter Kranz via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:36 PM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

Backpressure from the switches in terms of flow-control can show as latency on 
dragonwave links.

Disable any QOS features on the dragonwave if you are using them.

Email dragonwave support

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com<http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-0000
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy D. McNabb via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

No routers between, just switches.

-Tim

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

Could the routers at each end be the limiting factor?  What is their CPU 
utilization when the link is loaded?  What happens to latency if you stress the 
link at 200 Mbps with a speed test?  Those radios should be able to do close to 
400 Mbps all day long with no latency.

PC
Blaze Broadband


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua Heide via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

Yes it’s a horizon compact
Bandwidth of the unit is 400mbs
Bandwidth usage between 150-200mbs during peak hours.
No QOS
Yes during non-peak hours its sits at 1ms
SNR        35.00 dB

From our prtg graphs this issues has started end of September and latency has 
gotten worse during peak times as we have deployed more 450 gear to that tower.
I currently have HAAM enabled on the link and it stays at 256qam unless we have 
some bad weather.


Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800
www.velociter.net<http://www.velociter.net/>

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave latency issues

So it's a Horizon Compact?

What is the total bandwidth, and what percentage are you using?  Have you set 
up any QOS?  180 ms sounds like a lot; especially when ours are typically less 
than 1 ms.

-38 is right in the game. What are the other parameters besides signal level?

bp
On 10/22/2014 11:18 AM, Joshua Heide via Af wrote:
We have a dragonwave that has latency issues that coincide with traffic peak 
times. As our traffic peaks so does that latency at 180ms. Any ideas that could 
cause this?

Signal is -38
Current HAAM Mode       hc50_364_256qam

Thanks,

Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800
www.velociter.net<http://www.velociter.net/>




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