I think it’s like the “5 second rule”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-second_rule
If you ask a group of moms if that’s true, you’ll be met with the same dead 
silence (and averted eyes).

Now turning off someone else’s equipment to see if it’s causing you 
interference, that’s taking “testing” liberties too far.  Which reminds me, I 
had another WISP do that to me, the funny thing is my equipment never actually 
went down, because there was a UPS on top of the grain leg, and they flipped 
the breaker at the bottom.  But they said the interference went away while the 
breaker was off.



From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Help ptp650 stuck at 5x5

If you're honest enough that "testing" doesn't mean "permanent" to you, then 
test away and nobody will notice or even care for the short amount of time that 
you're figuring something out.

On 10/26/2014 8:57 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

  anybody? 
  testing is still not legal, right?

  On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:39 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

    Given my recent tyrade about obeying the regulations 

    I know I could have changed what the antenna size is in the GUI and the 5.2 
band would have given me more output power to test this link. I knwo it boils 
down to me being a dick about it, that I dont question. But when it comes down 
to it, am I correct that we cant even "test" outside our power restrictions? I 
know the FCC isnt driving around in vans looking for people overpowering a 
radio for 20 minutes, its not about getting caught, its about principle. 
    Are we allowed to do temporary things like that for testing purposes? I 
assume that as a letter of law we would have to have prior approval from the 
FCC, would we not?


    (This boils down to CYA over the ass chewing im pretty sure is on the way 
monday for not doing "whatever it takes" to get a critical link to full 
capacity, which I did last year when I specced out and sourced a licensed 
solution for the path)

    On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:56 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

      my cambium guy said there wouldnt be an answer right now, so im packing 
this up and saying fuck all this noise, im goin drinkin

      On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

        I would call support at this point. +1-888-863-5250

        Matthew Jenkins
        SmarterBroadband
        m...@sbbinc.net
        530.272.4000

        On 10/24/2014 03:36 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

          yes I did

          the spectrum is shit, I knew this going into it
          I unlocket the full throughput eval now
          its going above 5
          but by 5x5 I mean 5.00 x 5.00 with 2:1 1:1 1:2, on every channel, on 
every channel size not 4.96 x 5.01 flat out 5.00 x 5.00 I have never seen a ptp 
stay at a single number like that
          While we were peaking it out it was running up where it was expected  
aggregate around 19 or something
          this didnt start until I switched bands
          I went to 5.4 it was where it was expected for a 10.3 mile link
          I went to 5.2 when I went here I switched to the biggest channel, 
thats when it started 5.00 x 5.00
          Switched back to 5.8 had to move the transmit power back to 27 from -4
          5.00 x 5.00, no matter the channel size

          Im guessing this is a bug, what im wondering is if it corrupted the 
generic lite key or something like that when its in the trial it ignores the key

          anybody know what happens if theres no good key?


          On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

              Did you Disarm the Installation Agent?

              Matthew Jenkins
              SmarterBroadband
              m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
              530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>


              On 10/24/2014 02:54 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:


                  I'm running out of daylight. Has anybody come across this
                  before? Was modulating higher. I switched to 5.4 then 5.2 then
                  back to 5.8 now it won't go above 5x5 on any channel size





          -- 
          All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use 
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925







      -- 

      All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





    -- 

    All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





  -- 

  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


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