No. There is no good reason to run fiber through here. It's not on the
way to anywhere.
bp
On 10/30/2014 1:01 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
The LEC and MSO don't have fiber anywhere near there?
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*From: *"Bill Prince via Af" <af@afmug.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:57:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
There might be another wireless provider that could get them hooked
up, but I couldn't speculate who. They have a very narrow window
through their trees to a tiny section of the valley.
The other option would be running fiber up from the valley. Where
they're at, it would be an approximate 15 mile fiber run. How much is
that?
bp
On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote:
What are their alternatives Bill?
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a
customer. It works great.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote:
We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things
at the termination point we offer a lease or purchase for
the extended equipment.
I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead
of the latter.
On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote:
That pricing is similar to what we charge when using
PTP600 directly back to a fiber fed "hub site". At
the customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with
SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully
managed and monitored from NOC.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Matt
Jenkins via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM
To:af@afmug.com <mailto:to%3...@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated
100x100 service.
Base Price:
1yr Contract: $1980/mo
2yr Contract: $1870/mo
3yr Contract: $1760/mo
We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end
up giving customers 20-30% off to "make a deal". DIA
services are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to
add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to
get to the customer.
Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is
usually not a big deal. Licensed link could be the
cost of the link spread over term of contract.
You also have to consider what it takes from your
backbone to deliver that. How many sites from your
upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough to cover
future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What
about upgrades to UPSes in the path?
Just some things to consider.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
No Comcast here. No AT&T here. Others as well.
Only real competition at this site would be bonded
T1 lines. Qty 1 T1
in this location would be ~~ $500 per month.
There might be another Wireless provider that
could get through the
hole in the trees, but the number would be very,
very limited.
bp
On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
What are Comcast\TW\AT&T\Zayo\etc. selling 100
megs for? That's where
you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming
you're not losing your ass
at that rate.
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*From: *"Bill Prince via Af"<af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *"Motorola III"<af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated
100x100 service.
We have a new subscriber we're providing
dedicated 24x24 service
right now.
He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100
service. The link is ~~
8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to
put in a licensed link.
The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do
not want to interfere
on a site with relatively tight spectrum
demands, so anything in 5.8
is out of the question.
I don't really need technical advice, but I'm
looking for advice on
how to price this. Typically, we charge 30-50
% of the equipment
cost and then price the monthly recurring to
recover the remaining
equipment cost over 12 months. However, I
would like to entertain alternatives.
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