The LEC and MSO don't have fiber anywhere near there?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Prince via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:57:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. There might be another wireless provider that could get them hooked up, but I couldn't speculate who. They have a very narrow window through their trees to a tiny section of the valley. The other option would be running fiber up from the valley. Where they're at, it would be an approximate 15 mile fiber run. How much is that? bp On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote: What are their alternatives Bill? On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a customer. It works great. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: <blockquote> We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at the termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the extended equipment. I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of the latter. On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote: <blockquote> That pricing is similar to what we charge when using PTP600 directly back to a fiber fed "hub site". At the customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed and monitored from NOC. -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. Base Price: 1yr Contract: $1980/mo 2yr Contract: $1870/mo 3yr Contract: $1760/mo We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving customers 20-30% off to "make a deal". DIA services are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to get to the customer. Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually not a big deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the link spread over term of contract. You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone to deliver that. How many sites from your upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough to cover future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What about upgrades to UPSes in the path? Just some things to consider. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: <blockquote> No Comcast here. No AT&T here. Others as well. Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1 in this location would be ~~ $500 per month. There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very limited. bp On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: <blockquote> What are Comcast\TW\AT&T\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass at that rate. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< https://plus.google.com/+Intelligent ComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligen t-computing-solutions>< https://twitter.com/ICSIL > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- *From: *"Bill Prince via Af"< af@afmug.com > *To: *"Motorola III"< af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right now. He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~ 8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link. The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands, so anything in 5.8 is out of the question. I don't really need technical advice, but I'm looking for advice on how to price this. Typically, we charge 30-50 % of the equipment cost and then price the monthly recurring to recover the remaining equipment cost over 12 months. However, I would like to entertain alternatives. -- bp </blockquote> </blockquote> -- </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
