Have you looked at Eltek and Emerson?  Although Eltek seems to be oriented 
around –24 or –48, and not so good for +24.  Not familiar with Emerson, Mark 
Radabaugh has posted they use them.

I have an Eltek Micropack –48V system and the web and SNMP capability is 
excellent.  I did have one rectifier module fail, but it was pretty painless 
given they are N+1 redundant.


From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS

The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has low amperage (5-8 amps 
dep model) and don't maintain well big banks

The idea is to have the xl with internal batt and have a big bank connected to 
the external batt connector

This bank will be isolated from the apc during AC operation.  The bank will 
have a good charger and will run 24 dc loads(still under consideration)

AC fails, the apc ups will see the big bank for extended runtimes 

Gino A. Villarini 
@gvillarini



On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Hmm, give us details when you get them regarding the XL! 

  Josh

  On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

    Chris

    Thanks for this compressive evaluation.  We bought 2 Alpha/Cordex unit for 
testing.  We are in a similar spot, looking for a web managed power system in 
24 and 48 vdc.

    You saved us the expense of buying an ICT unit.

    That being said, we are looking into using a slightly modified apc xl unit 
to run 24 dc direct from the UPS DC rail


    Gino A. Villarini
    @gvillarini




    > On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net> 
wrote:
    >
    > I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's obvious 
that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works.
    >
    > We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) and 
neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to provide 
24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert and let us 
monitor the system status via SNMP.
    >
    > Alpha:
    > PROS: DIN rail mounted
    > CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely broken, have 
not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700.
    >
    > ICT:
    > PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS 
functionality, web interface works in all browsers.
    > CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote communication is lost 
when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other than the voltage for use 
with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not available via SNMP. Also 
costs about $700
    >
    > I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit remains 
"intelligent" when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web interface 
and SNMP it would be perfect.
    >
    > So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't completely 
cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that the battery 
is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when it's about to cut 
off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries, and all this information 
needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I asking for too much or does 
something of this nature exist outside of TrippLite and APC?
    >
    > --
    > Christopher Tyler
    > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
    > Total Highspeed Internet Services
    > 417.851.1107
    >

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