I think with the highest battery pack in a Model S you can get across the
country. Through one route. No off route stops.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 15, 2015 10:40 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:
> There are still TONS of places you can't drive between their charger
> stations and get around the country. Check out their map and see.
>
> The funny thing to me is they make all these announcements of a $35,000
> car, but not available until 2017. Really? You've had the last 3-5 years to
> be working on it, why is it another two years to actually have something?
>
> Travis
>
> On 1/15/2015 7:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Tell that to Tesla.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>
>
> But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Solar powered car.
>> Solar powered house.
>> Eventually solar powered garden too.
>> Oil? What is oil?
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>>
>> For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one
>> of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go
>> to like $250/barrel and stay there.
>>
>> We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's
>> next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than
>> oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the R&D and infrastructure buildout costs
>> look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs
>> basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in
>> place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move
>> in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and
>> financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles.
>>>
>>> On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>>
>>> There's an old, insightful joke about "what is the best price to sell
>>> barrels of oil for", which states that it's something like "$100, $100,
>>> $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100....."
>>>
>>> At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like
>>> hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same
>>> industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability
>>> to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a
>>> side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US
>>> sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now
>>> a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this
>>> sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of
>>> these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our
>>> willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities.
>>>
>>> Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get
>>> to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope
>>> continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line.
>>>
>>> -forrest
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in
>>>> the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to
>>>> squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US
>>>> oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of
>>>> gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up
>>>> production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad
>>>> for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net
>>>> benefit. Macroeconomics is complex.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie
>>>> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>> > From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of
>>>> OPEC.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser <
>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right
>>>> here in
>>>> >> the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually
>>>> when the
>>>> >> additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even
>>>> lower,
>>>> >> but that is just my thought.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It would be nice if they could do the same with grain.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM, That One Guy <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of operating, etc. But
>>>> I look
>>>> >>> at it as right now being a great time to get in on it, when the
>>>> rubber band
>>>> >>> snaps, you would already be at peak production capacity, without
>>>> the export
>>>> >>> and shipping to get it to its destination, in North America at
>>>> least. This
>>>> >>> is an artificially deflated market, it cant be sustained since it is
>>>> >>> inherently and artificially inflated market.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:19 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>>> >>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The investment has already been made to build the wells. I know it
>>>> >>>> would suck, but why not shut them down until the price goes up
>>>> again, then
>>>> >>>> just resume production? Even under new ownership? Doesn't sound
>>>> like a
>>>> >>>> permanent problem to me...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>> From: Bill Prince
>>>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all the marginal producers.
>>>> >>>> Initially it will be Russia and some of the other marginals like
>>>> Iraq &
>>>> >>>> Iran.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Pretty sure the shale oil and tar sands guys are hurting big time
>>>> right
>>>> >>>> now.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> bp
>>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 1/13/2015 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I wonder what is really driving the price down. Fracking, OPEC
>>>> >>>> diaspora, CAFE improvements, Russia problems ???
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> From: Jeremy
>>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:54 AM
>>>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>> >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Same up here in Ohio.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> >>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, "joseph marsh" <bwireless...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 1.75 here in my area
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 9:35 AM, "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> $1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> vlad
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have
>>>> stations at
>>>> >>>>>>>> $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :)
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Travis
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>> that the
>>>> >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
>>>> you can't
>>>> >>> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
>>>> not use a
>>>> >>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
