Not usually – as the OMT or Coupler won’t match the radios. You could do it with waveguide though…
Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? Can one put on a combiner and a different brand radio as to have moar throughput? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:09:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? Mike; Integra not available in 6 or 11, when they are it's only 100 meg jump in performance from the lumina... I'll checkout trango and maybe alcoma. Sounds like the IP20c is where it's at but I'm assuming they are 40K? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:01 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: What's the HP high power? What's the cost on that bad boy? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote: IP20C HP. Get a new FCC license :) You'll have another polarity to use later or in another direction. Jon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote: compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte and larger...it's a curve. Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... -Jon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater throughput? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote: It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP throughput that you can expect. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com <mailto:tha...@comsearch.com> > wrote: It’s really 60! 60 MHz CH N( G( 1 5960.0250 6212.0650 2 6019.3250 6271.3650 3 6078.6250 6330.6650 4 6137.9250 6389.9650 As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the orthogonal polarization. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 GHz... IIRC. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. From: TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: 11 ghz integra Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr From: TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ?
