I know you can run a combiner on Trango, Dragonwave, and Exalt for sure. I'm certain you can run one on most of the others too, with some restrictions. It's a nice option because it gives you some redundancy along with doubling the throughput.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/16/2015 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Can one put on a combiner and a different brand radio as to have moar throughput?



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 4:09:46 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?

Mike;

Integra not available in 6 or 11, when they are it's only 100 meg jump in performance from the lumina...

I'll checkout trango and maybe alcoma. Sounds like the IP20c is where it's at but I'm assuming they are 40K?

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:01 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

    What's the HP high power? What's the cost on that bad boy?

    On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jon Langeler
    <jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>> wrote:

        IP20C HP. Get a new FCC license :) You'll have another
        polarity to use later or in another direction.

        Jon

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com
        <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

            What is my least expensive option for getting  more
            bandwidth in 6ghz or 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps
            (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better?

            On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler
            <jon-ispli...@michwave.net
            <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>> wrote:

                compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields
                much less at 256byte and larger...it's a curve.

                Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz,
                you'll probably be slightly better off even if the
                calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' during
                rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from
                the same size dishes helps there. Licensing a wide
                single polarity is always cheapest...

                -Jon

                Sent from my iPhone

                On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman
                <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                    That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets
                    net you greater throughput?


                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
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                    On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy
                    <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                        It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps
                        full duplex (if every packet was a VoIP
                        packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic
                        real-world TCP throughput that you can expect.

                        On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim
                        <tha...@comsearch.com
                        <mailto:tha...@comsearch.com>> wrote:

                            It’s really 60!

                            *60 MHz *

                            *CH*

                                

                            *N(*

                                

                            *G(*

                            1

                                

                            5960.0250

                                

                            6212.0650

                            2

                                

                            6019.3250

                                

                            6271.3650

                            3

                                

                            6078.6250

                                

                            6330.6650

                            4

                                

                            6137.9250

                                

                            6389.9650

                            As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all
                            depends on the environment. If x-pol is
                            needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going
                            to be available on the orthogonal
                            polarization.

                            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
                            <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf
                            Of *Ken Hohhof
                            *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM


                            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
                            option for higher capacity ?

                            In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30
                            contiguous?

                            I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC
                            on the same 30 MHz channel than to find 60
                            MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t
                            done anything in 6 GHz, mainly because of
                            antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the
                            antenna rules to allow down to a 3 ft
                            dish, but realistically that won’t give
                            you enough gain unless it’s a short link,
                            especially given that 6 GHz is subject to
                            multipath fades.  So bottom line I haven’t
                            kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so
                            I could easily be wrong or behind the times.

                            *From:*Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>

                            *Sent:*Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM

                            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

                            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
                            option for higher capacity ?

                            30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6
                            GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 GHz...  IIRC.



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                            Mike Hammett
                            Intelligent Computing Solutions
                            http://www.ics-il.com

                            
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                            *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
                            <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
                            *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                            *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM
                            *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
                            option for higher capacity ?

                            I would first talk to your frequency
                            coordinator about what FCC channel widths
                            can be licensed in what bands. I’m not
                            sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and I
                            believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel
                            width means you need to license 2 adjacent
                            channels. There is no benefit to having a
                            radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s
                            not what you license, other than maybe
                            having consistent equipment across your
                            network to simplify sparing.

                            *From:*TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>

                            *Sent:*Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM

                            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

                            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
                            option for higher capacity ?

                            11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it
                            does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I
                            even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems
                            like 80 is the way to go?

                            On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino
                            Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
                            <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

                            11 ghz integra

                            Gino A. Villarini

                            President

                            Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

                            www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

                            @aeronetpr

                            *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com
                            <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>>
                            *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com
                            <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
                            <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
                            *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
                            *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
                            <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
                            *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
                            option for higher capacity ?

                            I guess what I'm interested in is what is
                            the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in
                            terms of bits/hz or should I just use the
                            lumina in 2+0?

                            On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout"
                            <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

                            So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I
                            need to upgrade, what is the most
                            economical option for more capacity ? Saf
                            doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right
                            now (maybe that's my best option?) So I
                            was thinking about trying another brand
                            something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What
                            are my options that won't cost an arm and
                            a leg ?








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