What's the price on the 11ghz integra-s? Do you think with wisp type traffic (majority streaming video) that any increase will be realized using header compression?
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Sounds like a hell of a deal! > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 4:16:38 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? > > +3db over non-HP models. I'll sell one link with full speed, etc. and > advanced replacement for $13k or less if anyone is interested. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Tech. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:01 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > > What's the HP high power? What's the cost on that bad boy? > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote: > >> IP20C HP. Get a new FCC license :) You'll have another polarity to use >> later or in another direction. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >> >> What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or >> 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >> wrote: >> >>> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at >>> 256byte and larger...it's a curve. >>> >>> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be >>> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' >>> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size >>> dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... >>> >>> -Jon >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater >>> throughput? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every >>>> packet was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP >>>> throughput that you can expect. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It’s really 60! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *60 MHz * >>>>> >>>>> *CH* >>>>> >>>>> *N(* >>>>> >>>>> *G(* >>>>> >>>>> 1 >>>>> >>>>> 5960.0250 >>>>> >>>>> 6212.0650 >>>>> >>>>> 2 >>>>> >>>>> 6019.3250 >>>>> >>>>> 6271.3650 >>>>> >>>>> 3 >>>>> >>>>> 6078.6250 >>>>> >>>>> 6330.6650 >>>>> >>>>> 4 >>>>> >>>>> 6137.9250 >>>>> >>>>> 6389.9650 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the >>>>> environment. If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be >>>>> available on the orthogonal polarization. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel >>>>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in >>>>> 6 >>>>> GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna >>>>> rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you >>>>> enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is >>>>> subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what >>>>> you >>>>> can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of >>>>> 6 GHz... IIRC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC >>>>> channel widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz >>>>> channels >>>>> exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means >>>>> you >>>>> need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a >>>>> radio >>>>> that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe >>>>> having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just >>>>> 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the >>>>> way >>>>> to go? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 11 ghz integra >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>> >>>>> President >>>>> >>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>> >>>>> www.aeronetpr.com >>>>> >>>>> @aeronetpr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM >>>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz >>>>> 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the >>>>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much >>>>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking >>>>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are >>>>> my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
