Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:55:16 -0800

There are also various ways to measure "working". The way WiMax "works" NLOS does not rock my world. I hope LTE does.
Population density is very low in some rural areas. New construction has been pretty much nada, with the housing bust and wind farms, no new subdivisions, no farmettes. The only houses are where farmhouses or 1 room schoolhouses used to stand. Then factor in you just can’t achieve 100% market share. No matter how good your service and price, some of the available subscribers will instead go with WISP competitors, DSL, satellite, mobile hotspot, or “I don’t need one of those newfangled computer thingies”. 
So sometimes you’re doing good to get 15 subs.
Of course if you can double your range, you may quadruple the available market. Someone on the list posted a few days back about not going through granite. I assume even LTE can’t do that however. 
*From:* Patrick Leary <mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too.
On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system you are using.
I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they come out with something new?
WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is just cheap.
Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. 

*Patrick Leary*

***M*727.501.3735

<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get?
I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. 

I have some towers with 15 clients.

Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question?

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:*Patrick Leary <mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>

    *To:*tel...@wispa.org <mailto:tel...@wispa.org> ; af@afmug.com
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>

    *Sent:*Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM

    *Subject:*[AFMUG] New feedback

    This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new
    customers. If he wishes to identify himself, he will....

    *Patrick Leary*

    *M*727.501.3735

    <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>


    *From:*

    *Sent:*Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM
    *To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar
    *Subject:* Interesting Statistic

    "Patrick / Nick –

    Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent
    out an interesting email to our staff this evening. In February
    with only 20 working days we completed 40 installs with one
    technician... This is only icing on the cake, especially since we
    are onboarding two more techs... I ran some additional numbers and
    found that out of the “Telrad” installations that we scheduled,
    100 % were successful both of these months. This is a game
    changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste
    further time with the dreaded site surveys.  Our success is not
    without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution.  Truly amazing and
    inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this
    spring/summer/fall.  I cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn
    things in the air.

    Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful
    for the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...."





    
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