On list could be educational for the rest of us.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Who's "you guys"? I didn't work here when these decisions were made. :)
Some day maybe you can fill me in on what's been done wrong. On or off list is
fine.
Once again, your deployment is non standard Adam. The way your sectors are
configured the NLOS won't rock your world. We've all known that for a long
time; that was the choice you guys made.
Patrick Leary
M 727.501.3735
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
There are also various ways to measure "working". The way WiMax "works" NLOS
does not rock my world. I hope LTE does.
Population density is very low in some rural areas. New construction has
been pretty much nada, with the housing bust and wind farms, no new
subdivisions, no farmettes. The only houses are where farmhouses or 1 room
schoolhouses used to stand.
Then factor in you just can’t achieve 100% market share. No matter how
good your service and price, some of the available subscribers will instead go
with WISP competitors, DSL, satellite, mobile hotspot, or “I don’t need one of
those newfangled computer thingies”.
So sometimes you’re doing good to get 15 subs.
Of course if you can double your range, you may quadruple the available
market.
Someone on the list posted a few days back about not going through granite.
I assume even LTE can’t do that however.
From: Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick.
The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4
tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not
consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We
build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too.
On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you
need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk you
guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we can be a
solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's the blunt
truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop (but I
can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 number
comes from? Can you please explain on what architecture that is based? Range?
Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on what just that pop
can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of necessity due to the
poor performance of the system you are using.
I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS"
area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at 400'
and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS all the
way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to can't deal
with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is not. It is just
gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the software level, and even
that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. You have equipment problems.
How such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a "solution" for rural
broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing a market to skim
opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes seems to embrace
abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year
old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to
buy. Then vendors do that crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward
compatibility when they come out with something new?
WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that
love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car that
falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should ever have
accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is just cheap.
Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just
a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either.
Patrick Leary
M 727.501.3735
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get?
I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we
never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area.
I have some towers with 15 clients.
Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question?
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Leary
To: tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback
This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers.
If he wishes to identify himself, he will....
Patrick Leary
M 727.501.3735
From:
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM
To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar
Subject: Interesting Statistic
"Patrick / Nick –
Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an
interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 working
days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only icing on the
cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I ran some
additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” installations that we
scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these months. This is a game changer,
and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste further time with the
dreaded site surveys. Our success is not without the help of Telrad’s Compact
solution. Truly amazing and inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion
this spring/summer/fall. I cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things
in the air.
Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for
the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...."
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