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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Richardson 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..


  Fortunately we did not have a lot of users on 900, we were using it for 
distance but once we found the WARM grid antennas we were able to get stable 
links on 2.4

   

  Just wasn’t worth the fight. 

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:21 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

   

   

  Did you ever talk to any of your state reps in congress?

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Jerry Richardson 

    To: af@afmug.com 

    Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:05 AM

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

     

    Yep, lived it.

     

    The discussions PG&E ended with “Our lawyers say we are in compliance, take 
it up with them”.

     

    OK then….

     

    We managed to keep some links up, but ultimately it relegated 900 to very 
low density neighborhoods and links that needed to be -65 or better at both 
ends. 

     

     

     

    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
    Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:02 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

     

    I think the point some are missing is the lesson learned from 900Mhz and 
smart meters. 

     

    While 900Mhz is unlicensed spectrum, a single operator has managed to take 
it over in California to the point where no other user has any chance of using 
the spectrum for commercial purposes.

     

    By this I mean that PG&E’s deployment of smart meters on every power meter 
in the area, and on top of power poles, and other high sites, has raised the 
noise floor on this band to unusable levels for high speed communications.

     

    So by means of overwhelming numbers, PG&E managed to take over 900Mhz for 
its own users, stranding the investment of ISPs in this spectrum in affected 
markets. I don’t think the commissions initial concept of unlicensed spectrum 
was that a single operator would do this, I think they expected operators by 
this to use licensed spectrum.

     

    I’d like to see a limit on how many systems a particular entity can deploy 
in an unlicensed band. It could be some high number, like 1 million units.

     

    Peter Kranz
    Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
    www.UnwiredLtd.com
    Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
    Mobile: 510-207-0000
    pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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