Wow... you've... you've really thought this through.

-Steve D

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:07 AM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suspected it was discovered, and v10 specifically broke the miner and
> the code that called these IPs from a list somehow put them in there.
>
> If I were a developer I would do things like that, which is why God
> intervened everytime I tried to learn to code. I would be in prison, I
> would be very pretty, the koolaid lipstick would make my lips cherry red,
> and my shirt would be tied in a knot while my milkshake brought all the
> boys to the yard. Good thing for me I never learned to code
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Simon Westlake <si...@powercode.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I think your tinfoil hat is a little tight.. ;) If we were going to use
>> your billing server as a bitcoin miner, why would we only change the IPs
>> when a customer updated their equipment in the portal? And why would we
>> even make it visible? If I really wanted to hide a bitcoin miner on your
>> billing server, I wouldn't do it by sending your customers to the redirect
>> page..
>>
>> On 03/09/2015 09:57 AM, That One Guy wrote:
>>
>> me and my tinfoil hat find it suspiscious that v10 resolved the constant
>> overloaded billing servers and this pops up, like there is a list somewhere
>> and since the first one I saw was affiliated with bitcoins, Paranoid me
>> assumed a developer sometime in the historical chain realized there were
>> alot of unused cycles out there under their control.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Look up variable declaration types.  I'm willing to bet someone did the
>>> math wrong.  I've seen it a couple times before but I can't recall where.
>>>
>>> While the IPs look random, they're not.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>  On Mar 9, 2015 10:47 AM, "That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where are these IPs coming from.
>>>>
>>>>  and this is a direct serious question, at any point in time, whether
>>>> as a product of bertram or the previous developers, were billing servers
>>>> used as a distributed bitcoin mining system?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Simon Westlake <si...@powercode.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  It's not database corruption, but it is a known bug (IP changing when
>>>>> MAC is edited in customer portal) and it's fixed in 10.03.32. The patch
>>>>> will be out this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/08/2015 10:34 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it seemed like a database corruption issue to me as well.  I had
>>>>> one customer get the redirect and I went in and looked and he was on a
>>>>> completely wrong IP (in a subnet that I happened to be working on earlier
>>>>> that day and the evening before).  He hadn't even logged into the customer
>>>>> portal.  The logs didn't show any IP change, but clearly his IP was 
>>>>> changed
>>>>> in the database, as he was working fine on the same IP for months and
>>>>> months.  That issue and the incorrect assignments when a customer enters a
>>>>> new MAC seemed related to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 9:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> *From:* Jay Fuller - Cyber Broadband Inc
>>>>>> *To:* Powercode
>>>>>> *Cc:* Cyber Broadband Inc.
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 7:34 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Ticket Updated [Ticket Number:5841] - weird ip
>>>>>> changes during customer portal equipment edits
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gentlemen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has happened again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxx, customer 1478, requested a public routable IP address
>>>>>> which is
>>>>>> in a different address class from what he was assigned at
>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>> Upon changing the address, he was assigned 104.152.40.91, which is an
>>>>>> available address in the "Cullman Public" address range.  However,
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> looking at the ARP response (because the customer is bridged to our
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> router),  I saw another network device already had that IP address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I searched for that MAC address, which was 78:24:AF:7B:49:38 ,
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> equipment search, which came back to customer
>>>>>> 514, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, who had logged into the customer portal
>>>>>> on January 29 to
>>>>>> install a new router.  Upon changing his MAC address, powercode
>>>>>> assigned him
>>>>>> 104.153.191.25, which is not even in any of our network address
>>>>>> ranges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It belongs to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Source:  whois.arin.net
>>>>>> IP Address:  104.153.191.25
>>>>>> Name:  IMDC-KC-LOOPBACKS
>>>>>> Handle:  NET-104-153-191-0-1
>>>>>> Registration Date:  2/2/15
>>>>>> Range:  104.153.191.0-104.153.191.31
>>>>>> Org:  Iron Mountain Data Center
>>>>>> Org Handle:  IMIML
>>>>>> Address:  One Federal Street
>>>>>> City:  Boston
>>>>>> State/Province:  MA
>>>>>> Postal Code:  02111
>>>>>> Country:  UNITED STATES
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is very similar to our new public IP range which is
>>>>>> 104.152.40.0/22
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidently, it appears this customer was assigned 104.152.40.91
>>>>>> before he
>>>>>> attempted to edit his equipment and was changed to 104.153.191.25.
>>>>>> Also of
>>>>>> note, it appears this only affected the GUI/web interface of
>>>>>> powercode, and
>>>>>> the router/bmu continued to assign him 104.152.40.91.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will now have to reassign  xxxxxxxxx a new IP address since the
>>>>>> web/gui
>>>>>> gave his IP address to someone else.
>>>>>> I hope this information helps you to figure out what is happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still concerned we have some kind of database issue.  Weird
>>>>>> things like
>>>>>> this seem to be happening a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Powercode
>>>>>> To: Cyber Broadband
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Ticket Updated [Ticket Number:5841]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------- Please reply above this line ----------------
>>>>>> Good afternoon Jay,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were able to test from this customer's account, and the same issue
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> was originally reported to us persisted. We logged into the customer
>>>>>> portal,
>>>>>> changed the MAC address by one digit, and immediately the customer
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> issued an IP address of 192.170.241.173. After changing the MAC
>>>>>> address back
>>>>>> to his current valid one, we then had to manually clear out his IP
>>>>>> address
>>>>>> in Powercode in order for the BMU to hand out a reservation for
>>>>>> 192.168.3.36
>>>>>> via DHCP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point, we are going to contact our network engineers for
>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>> in troubleshooting why this customer would receive a 192.170.xx.xx
>>>>>> reservation, as this IP does not fit within any ranges defined in
>>>>>> Powercode.
>>>>>> We will update you as soon as we've had a chance to go over this with
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> John Mahnke
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
>>>>>> powercode.com
>>>>>> P: 920-351-1010
>>>>>> E: supp...@powercode.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> *From:* Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>  *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:25 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Powercode oddity - Commerzbank Ip space
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I also have a ticket in about this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, That One Guy <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is known to them? (powercode)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, they're aware of it.  i pointed this out to them weeks ago.  :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2015 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Powercode oddity - Commerzbank Ip space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I am able to replicate a small issue we are having, trying to
>>>>>>>> make the decision of whether it looks like a security issue or just a 
>>>>>>>> bug.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Through powercode, there are two ways to update equipment,
>>>>>>>> through our interface, where we select all the details and through the
>>>>>>>> customer portal where all the customers can do is update their MAC 
>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no problems with our end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  However, when a customer updates their MAC address, it is
>>>>>>>> assigning IP space that apparently belongs to this Commerzbank IP
>>>>>>>> space 208.74.54.100 and 208.74.54.99.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  This IP space is absolutely not in our system, and wouldnt route
>>>>>>>> naturally on our network
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Net Range 208.74.52.0 - 208.74.55.255  CIDR 208.74.52.0/22
>>>>>>>>   Name DKIB-USA  Handle NET-208-74-52-0-1  Parent NET208 (
>>>>>>>> NET-208-0-0-0-0
>>>>>>>> <http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-0-0-0-0.html>)  Net Type Direct
>>>>>>>> Assignment  Origin AS
>>>>>>>>   Organization Commerzbank AG (COMMER-109
>>>>>>>> <http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/COMMER-109.html>)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  My initial thoughts are this is some bug in powercode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Paranoid me is that our system is somehow compromised and
>>>>>>>> rerouting illegitimate traffic somehow. Customer is down, so not 
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> them. but something like TOR rerouting or some other magician script 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the axis of evil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Anybody have any ideas on this? I am debating taking our billing
>>>>>>>> server offline, but would hate to take such an extreme measure for what
>>>>>>>> could amount to nothing more than a fat finger from a programmer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
>>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>>> Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
>>>>> powercode.com
>>>>> P: 920-351-1010
>>>>>  E: si...@powercode.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
>> powercode.com
>> P: 920-351-1010
>> E: si...@powercode.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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