Proxim.

Deliberant also just released one.

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 05/15/2015 08:18 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Am I the only one reading this discussion and shaking my head.....

The comparison of these two is absurd and ridiculous... it reminds me of the discussion of this exact nature when Ubiquiti M products were first available in the market place and folks had conversation very similar Ubiquiti M (802.11n) vs Canopy (802.11 b/g) products ?

Ubiquiti AC PTMP is one of the first 802.11ac PTMP system in the market place... A better comparison would be with PTMP systems of the same class... (e.g. Mimosa PTMP, expected later this year, and I would not be surprised at all if Cambium also has a 802.11ac PTMP product in their pipeline.).... Didn't Trango also announce / have a shipping PTMP system based on 802.11ac ? Anyone has info on that ?

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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    *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
    *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2015 10:23:58 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

    Which is where ePMP comes in. you get reasonable cost and sync...
    which makes good spectrum management a lot easier.

    On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
    <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Perhaps, but at 1000x the cost.

        On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Adam Moffett
        <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I'd suggest with careful spectrum management, proper
            loading, AND better equipment you'd still be better off.

                I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a
                valley 11 miles wide, built over the top of a synced
                Canopy network.  I take about 10 customers a week off
                of their 450 platform and we are constantly told that
                the difference is night and day better on our
                network.  Careful spectrum management and proper AP
                loading wins over sync every time.

                On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard
                <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
                wrote:

                    No, we can't always control that, but if I can at
                    least control it sometimes, I'll take it.

                    On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds
                    <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>
                    wrote:

                        And you have the opinion you can control that,
                        constantly, on unlicensed spectrum?

                        *smirk*

                        Josh Reynolds
                        CIO, SPITwSPOTS
                        www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>

                        On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

                            That's a very good point, regardless of
                            what some customers seem to think, mbps
                            really isn't the most important thing...

                            On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam
                            Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
                            <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                                I've always considered mbps to be
                                among the least important concerns on
                                PTMP, well below packet loss, jitter,
                                QoS features, manageability,
                                consistency, and reliability. Which is
                                why I'm not super keen on *any* of the
                                wifi stuff.  This seems is like an
                                argument about whether a Pinto is
                                better than a Fiesta.
                                </smug>

                                    One could say "I can sync but I
                                    can only get 60 Mbps per sub" (*)

                                    Another person could say "I can't
                                    sync but I can get 200+ Mbps per
                                    sub" (*)

                                    (*) under the right conditions

                                    Your market and deployment strats
                                    will dictate which is more important.

                                    Josh Reynolds
                                    CIO, SPITwSPOTS
                                    www.spitwspots.com  
<http://www.spitwspots.com>

                                    On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM,
                                    SmarterBroadband wrote:

                                        But no sync.

                                        *From:*Af
                                        [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
                                        *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
                                        *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015
                                        3:12 PM
                                        *To:* af@afmug.com
                                        <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs
                                        Ubiquiti AC

                                        AC blows doors on ePMP

                                        *Peter Kranz
                                        *www.UnwiredLtd.com
                                        <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
                                        Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
                                        <tel:510-868-1614%20x100>
                                        Mobile: 510-207-0000
                                        <tel:510-207-0000>
                                        pkr...@unwiredltd.com
                                        <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>

                                        *From:*Af
                                        [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
                                        *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
                                        *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015
                                        11:21 AM
                                        *To:* af@afmug.com
                                        <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                        *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP vs
                                        Ubiquiti AC

                                        I know this isn't an apples to
                                        apples comparison, but what
                                        are other's thoughts on these
                                        two products?  I'm looking at
                                        5GHz, and I know the AC gear
                                        doesn't have the lower 5GHz
                                        bands - hopefully they will in
                                        the near future.

                                        -Jason












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