Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

[Adam Moffett]

Or put another way...if he's using better equipment but doesn't know how 
to use it, then you'll still win.

I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11 miles 
wide, built over the top of a synced Canopy network.  I take about 10 
customers a week off of their 450 platform and we are constantly told 
that the difference is night and day better on our network.  Careful 
spectrum management and proper AP loading wins over sync every time.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least control it
    sometimes, I'll take it.

    On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds
    <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:

        And you have the opinion you can control that, constantly, on
        unlicensed spectrum?

        *smirk*

        Josh Reynolds
        CIO, SPITwSPOTS
        www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>

        On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
        That's a very good point, regardless of what some customers
        seem to think, mbps really isn't the most important thing...

        On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett
        <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I've always considered mbps to be among the least
            important concerns on PTMP, well below packet loss,
            jitter, QoS features, manageability, consistency, and
            reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on *any* of
            the wifi stuff. This seems is like an argument about
            whether a Pinto is better than a Fiesta.
            </smug>

            One could say "I can sync but I can only get 60 Mbps per
            sub" (*)

            Another person could say "I can't sync but I can get
            200+ Mbps per sub" (*)

            (*) under the right conditions

            Your market and deployment strats will dictate which is
            more important.
            Josh Reynolds
            CIO, SPITwSPOTS
            www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>
            On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

            But no sync.

            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *Peter Kranz
            *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

            AC blows doors on ePMP

            *Peter Kranz
            *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
            Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100>
            Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>
            pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>

            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *Jason McKemie
            *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

            I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but
            what are other's thoughts on these two products?  I'm
            looking at 5GHz, and I know the AC gear doesn't have
            the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully they will in the near
            future.

            -Jason