We have never charged for tree growth.  We do charge for customer related 
issues....bad routers....weed whacking etc.

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] charging for service calls
Date: Fri, May 22, 2015 10:10 AM

I would say that the major competitor would be out of business at some 
point.....

For tree growth and other stuff that's a much more grey area and my experience 
has been not to charge customers.  Having said that, if the customer is 
insistent on a specific location that you have already suggested them not to 
use, we would have them sign a special sheet stating so - then future calls 
would become billable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Good points.  However, there's no contention over charging for bullet holes in 
the equipment (AFAIK).  Really it seems like nobody disagrees that if the 
customer broke it, the customer should pay for it.

The specific case that's causing disagreement is tree growth which requires us 
to move the antenna.  It's probably nobody's fault. It's conceivable we could 
have put it in a poor location the first time.  
It's also possible the customer pressured us to put it in the poorer location.  
Most likely nobody could have known what was going to happen with the trees a 
few years down the road.  Trees pretty much grow like weeds around here by the 
way....if you stop mowing a field it eventually becomes a forest.  There are 
lots of other circumstances where fault isn't clear.

What if you had a major competitor who doesn't typically charge for service 
calls?




> If all service calls are chargable, but you waive where it's your fault, or 
> otherwise indicated, you're an awesome business doing right by your customers.
>
> If you roll for free, then charge when you find the customer's been using the 
> radio for target practice, you're a greedy bastard who's out to squeeze every 
> last penny out of innocent, hard-working regular folk, who just made a simple 
> mistake, aren't smart with all that computer stuff, and didn't realize that 
> electronic equipment works best without holes in it, and shouldn't be 
> punished because YOU didn't explain that to them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 1:31 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] charging for service calls
>
> There have been some discussions at the office recently on this topic.
> One camp feels that the default action should be to charge for all service 
> calls, and make an exception if necessary.  The other camp feels that we 
> should reserve the right to charge for a service call, but we should only do 
> so if the problem is somehow the customer's fault (like hitting the cable 
> with the weed whacker). The discussion in our office is only about fixing 
> internet service by the way, not about fixing computers or other customer 
> equipment.
>
> I was wondering what the peanut gallery thinks today.
>

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