I think it would be more productive of a comparative conversation if one was to 
describe why (Technical feature wise) the Ruckus and Xirrus are "champions" of 
the Wifi Space. 

I shudder every time there is a comparison made between MFG. since all of them 
make high-end and low-end stuff as well..... 

The Strength of Ruckus WIFI solution is in the fact that their (most of them) 
Radio's do Beamforming very well, and when the Controller is used, the 
Controller will dynamically manage the Radios's Wifi settings and parameters. 

The Strength of Xirrus is, having recently looked at some XN8's, all I can say 
is WOW !, if you forget the price for a moment, if anyone had a Dream Radio 
Array features Wish List, guess what, they have all of those feature built 
in..... It is a piece of equipment with multiple radios (4,8,16) a combination 
of 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios which can be configured to pretty much any 
configuration, combination you like.... 

Does that mean that the above two is the only way to go ? No it is very much 
possible to configure Unifi's, with the right product selection, to accomplish 
similar results. And yes, if you are looking for a particular feature set, you 
have to pay attention to which units you are using, because all of the Unifi 
radios don't support all the features. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

> I had a car analogy lined up, but I saw too many holes in my own analogy.

> Ruckus and Xirrus are the champions of the WiFi space. They are the very best
> of the best.

> UniFi is good enough for most situations and is considerably less expensive.

> Cisco isn't winning any awards and is really only considered by people
> playing the IBM strategy. It's more expensive than the better options of
> UniFi and Xirrus.

> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Paul Stewart" < p...@paulstewart.org >
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27 , 2015 7:22:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

> Well you haven’t provided any good reasons …. I’ve never used Ruckus/Xirrus
> to be honest and we don’t have the luxury of “trial and error” with products
> we’ve never used – so the reasons would be to be quite compelling. Always
> open to ideas …

> Ben – you asked if we had contacted support… short answer is yes but I don’t
> have the details as it’s handled by another group….

> Thanks,

> Paul

> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 10:13 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

> Then you want Ruckus\Xirrus, not Cisco.

> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com

> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Paul Stewart" < p...@paulstewart.org >
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 8:21:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

> We have Unifi (non AC) version in our offices and it sucks … working on a
> plan to migrate to Cisco probably – complete opposite a

> When the system is working well, it’s not bad at all but it doesn’t seem to
> deal with outside interference very well and often slows down to a snails
> pace. It also doesn’t handle video and voice very well most of the time
> despite traffic prioritization. I’d take a guess at around 120 users during
> the day and 30-40 users off hours (we run 24X7).

> Also found the Unifi stuff doesn’t handle AP handoff very well at all … not
> even sure if it’s supported in the specs come to think of it.. I’ve read the
> latest generation has “seamless handoff’ though….

> I’ve deployed Cisco before and it’s definitely quite a bit more in cost but
> for our application, cost is secondary compared to performance/stability.

> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 8:49 PM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

> Our local rez replaced all their Cisco gear and controllers with Ubiquiti AC
> Dual Band UniFi and software. Speeds and performance much better and easy to
> manage. The casino waitresses love the pos at customers tables and security
> knows where they are at all times. Used at both Speaking Rock and Socorro
> Entertainment Center..I installed two AC UniFi APs months ago for cattle
> association. Not one call...ave 75 to 150 users a day

> Jaime Solorza

> On May 26 , 2015 5:17 PM, "Craig House" < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > wrote:
> > Got a 110' tower that belongs to a large campground that we are using as a
> > tower site. Using Mimosa links to the tower and have 500+ MB of bandwidth
> > available to this tower. The campground area is about 110 acres and about
> > 1/2 of that has camp sites that we want to be able to provide paid by the X
> > WIFI service. UBNT has a billing platform that I think integrates with
> > their
> > equipment and I will gladly use their equipment but I dont want to recreate
> > the wheel here. This is not in my normal course of business but the
> > campground owner wants it and I think there is a lot of potential here all
> > be it seasonally. Is the UBNT software good stuff? What are your
> > recommendations to type of AP's / Antennas / for such a setup. What is the
> > best way to market this type of service? Free for basic minimal speeds?
> > then
> > sell a higher rate if they want it. Or Just bill for anything one lower
> > package and one higher package? Has anyone on the list tried this at a
> > campground and if so what mistakes did you make and what did you end up
> > using? Ive made enough mistakes in the past with other stuff. I have
> > learned
> > to ask you guys on stuff I'm not familiar with .
> 

> > Craig
>

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