Pricing sheet I found online... http://www.peppm.org/Products/xirrus/price.pdf
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: > FWIW..... > > >>>>>They aren’t as good outdoor since they don’t have 802.11ac yet but > with the right antennas, they can dominate an area. > > They do have 802.11ac radios.... pricey they are ! ..... > http://www.xirrus.com/product-comparison/ > > As for outdoors, they take a different approach, while you can add > antennas, they have an outdoor case that allows for mounting these large > pucks .... > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:43:04 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > I know Xirrus better than I know Ruckus but Ruckus is pretty much the > standard for large scale, professional deployments nowadays. Their tools > are outstanding, their radios are capable of handling up to a couple > thousand users simultaneously, and their firmware/management tools are > excellent, including their security features. > > > > Xirrus isn’t as big a player outdoor but the granularity of their > firmware/management tools is amazing. They have Procera firmware built > into every AP and every AP is essentially a controller by itself. They > aren’t as good outdoor since they don’t have 802.11ac yet but with the > right antennas, they can dominate an area. They can even do things like > turn off beaconing for 802.11b at 1, 2, and 5Mbps but leave it on for > 11Mbps. Ruckus is easier to install with integrated outdoor units but > Xirrus is the next level up. Indoor, Xirrus has no equal. > > > > Rory > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:34 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > Very well said .. I like your summary …. > > > > The “champions” description I compare to what I see deployed. Anytime I’m > at a sporting event, public place, office complex etc I’m always curious to > see what’s deployed for equipment (if I can see it). While I’m sure Ruckus > and Xirrus are good products for some folks, I have never seen their stuff > deployed. This doesn’t mean it’s good or bad gear … or going back to the > Ferrari analogy, just because you don’t see a lot of them on the road > doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the best built vehicles out there. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > I think it would be more productive of a comparative conversation if one > was to describe why (Technical feature wise) the Ruckus and Xirrus are > "champions" of the Wifi Space. > > > > I shudder every time there is a comparison made between MFG. since all of > them make high-end and low-end stuff as well..... > > > > The Strength of Ruckus WIFI solution is in the fact that their (most of > them) Radio's do Beamforming very well, and when the Controller is used, > the Controller will dynamically manage the Radios's Wifi settings and > parameters. > > > > The Strength of Xirrus is, having recently looked at some XN8's, all I can > say is WOW !, if you forget the price for a moment, if anyone had a Dream > Radio Array features Wish List, guess what, they have all of those feature > built in..... It is a piece of equipment with multiple radios (4,8,16) a > combination of 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios which can be configured to pretty > much any configuration, combination you like.... > > > > Does that mean that the above two is the only way to go ? No it is very > much possible to configure Unifi's, with the right product selection, to > accomplish similar results. And yes, if you are looking for a particular > feature set, you have to pay attention to which units you are using, > because all of the Unifi radios don't support all the features. > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > I had a car analogy lined up, but I saw too many holes in my own analogy. > > > > Ruckus and Xirrus are the champions of the WiFi space. They are the very > best of the best. > > > > UniFi is good enough for most situations and is considerably less > expensive. > > > > Cisco isn't winning any awards and is really only considered by people > playing the IBM strategy. It's more expensive than the better options of > UniFi and Xirrus. > > > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:22:37 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > Well you haven’t provided any good reasons …. I’ve never used > Ruckus/Xirrus to be honest and we don’t have the luxury of “trial and > error” with products we’ve never used – so the reasons would be to be quite > compelling. Always open to ideas … > > > > Ben – you asked if we had contacted support… short answer is yes but I > don’t have the details as it’s handled by another group…. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > Then you want Ruckus\Xirrus, not Cisco. > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:21:28 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > We have Unifi (non AC) version in our offices and it sucks … working on a > plan to migrate to Cisco probably – complete opposite a > > > > When the system is working well, it’s not bad at all but it doesn’t seem > to deal with outside interference very well and often slows down to a > snails pace. It also doesn’t handle video and voice very well most of the > time despite traffic prioritization. I’d take a guess at around 120 users > during the day and 30-40 users off hours (we run 24X7). > > > > Also found the Unifi stuff doesn’t handle AP handoff very well at all … > not even sure if it’s supported in the specs come to think of it.. I’ve > read the latest generation has “seamless handoff’ though…. > > > > I’ve deployed Cisco before and it’s definitely quite a bit more in cost > but for our application, cost is secondary compared to > performance/stability. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:49 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > > Our local rez replaced all their Cisco gear and controllers with Ubiquiti > AC Dual Band UniFi and software. Speeds and performance much better and > easy to manage. The casino waitresses love the pos at customers tables and > security knows where they are at all times. Used at both Speaking Rock and > Socorro Entertainment Center..I installed two AC UniFi APs months ago for > cattle association. Not one call...ave 75 to 150 users a day > > Jaime Solorza > > On May 26, 2015 5:17 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: > > Got a 110' tower that belongs to a large campground that we are using as a > tower site. Using Mimosa links to the tower and have 500+ MB of bandwidth > available to this tower. The campground area is about 110 acres and about > 1/2 of that has camp sites that we want to be able to provide paid by the X > WIFI service. UBNT has a billing platform that I think integrates with > their equipment and I will gladly use their equipment but I dont want to > recreate the wheel here. This is not in my normal course of business but > the campground owner wants it and I think there is a lot of potential here > all be it seasonally. Is the UBNT software good stuff? What are your > recommendations to type of AP's / Antennas / for such a setup. What is > the best way to market this type of service? Free for basic minimal > speeds? then sell a higher rate if they want it. Or Just bill for anything > one lower package and one higher package? Has anyone on the list tried > this at a campground and if so what mistakes did you make and what did you > end up using? Ive made enough mistakes in the past with other stuff. I > have learned to ask you guys on stuff I'm not familiar with . > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > >
